(06-12-2013, 08:12 PM)SummerMcLovin Wrote: I only showed up late to the battle, but all three Corsairs were still alive when I did (they had already killed the RMBS...) - all I saw were Zoners defending a Zoner base, Order defending the same (also killing Nomads and idiot Corsairs) and AIs killing Nomads and Corsairs. All the Nomads I saw were attacking the above side, or just spinning around keeping the shield up.
As Golly is getting at, Order ID has 75% on LN tech. I saw the 141| LAC and later a Dreadnought at the base.

(06-12-2013, 07:56 PM)Potter Harry Wrote: One such cases would be BHG, IMG, Rogues, CR, Zoners and independent pirates defending a TAZ base in Baffin/Tau 29, some of which were official faction members.

If I remember this situation correctly (FPXXI being removed by Kusari and Gallia together), there were CR| ships alongside a Freelancer and a couple of Pirate IDs attacking (not very well, admittedly) the horde of hostile caps. I think Bret came on his TAZ to demand an explanation from the KNF, do not think he was annoyed enough (in or out of RP) to attack them though.
Since before CR| was formed, the Colonials have been at war with Kusari and Gallia and allied with the TAZ - two very valid reasons to turn up and shoot things.

In general though, bases tend to bring out the worst in people and there have been plenty of 'alliances' perceived to be ooRP.

(06-12-2013, 07:33 PM)Duvelske Wrote:

I think it explains enough.. Its not about roleplay anymore.. but just who do you know. NOthing more nothing less.

I remember Order and corsairs shooting ZA bases not that long ago. I was not there personally, but i did hear that they where. Now i was a witness of this too but it only saddens me. what people do for a base. Like ZA where sanctioned for re-engaging i bet many would do that for preserving their base. So basicly they put up the middle finger to the rules to defend their own 'property'. In a way i see why but it does not justify the reason to just tag along and ignore the plain server rules.

(06-13-2013, 09:22 AM)Hell Hunter Wrote: Mind you, bases also have tactical advantages too. Not all bases are built for RP (defensive bases)
but can also accidently provide it at the same time. (eg ZA, or the mollies one in dublin asking for permits, whatever.)
Personsally bases should be easier to kill and easier to maintain - is it really worth the struggle just for some "RP" ?

• Do you intend to make bases more easier to build / manage so that maintenance of them is not time consuming thus anti to Discovery as the current system is?
  
  
• Or isit the intention that bases will continue as they are?
  

(06-13-2013, 09:45 AM)GTB Wrote: Because it's the only way they can get "enough people" together to kill a base that's well protected shooting it over a long period of time. So RP goes flying out the window just to kill the base. Unless you have loads of mates on Disco who will help you defend a base, don't waste your time building one. Because some on this server get their kicks from killing them with help from their mates.

(06-13-2013, 10:29 AM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: Regarding some ZA, some of them were faking just to troll, same way you will see |ZA| or <ZA> - both fake.
Bases do take a lot of time to build, but that brings rp as well, more than what you can do with a lone fighter. This is true to everyone but more to zoners, since whales are defenseless your only hope is to talk your way out of trouble.
I found plenty of time to build my base and still keep up with my characters, building the base is tough but once you finish it everything becomes easy. Bases themselves provide an additional layer of RP, and using these creations as an excuse to stamp I find to be really stupid. Before going on to claim that Disco is not about bases, Disco is here because of Bases, because of what the devs made and how disco has evolved, this is progress, not rolling back, Cheers.

(06-13-2013, 08:30 AM)Swallow Wrote: It is not bases' fault, but peoples', who lost grip on the roleplay.
It is all about players.

(06-13-2013, 07:58 AM)sindroms Wrote: The tragic thing is that even the argument that the items bases produce add to RP is invalid. Because cloaks let you avoid RP altogether.