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Well Loken i migh disagree with that rule but that is my opinion and dont count as much, but imagine if you go california way... someone kill YOU, when you just want to go your way AND dont want to PvP, it seems this rules ARE forcing people to hard pvp all the time even the miners ship "tons of damage", so you respawn at california you cant be there so you go oposite way, some other pirate stops you and next he kills you.. you again spawn at California again.. so basicly you are making people to waste all the money on several ships to be able to play this game ?

Imagine someone with lack of time to play and just want to enjoy a game for a while... like me i come from work have like 3/4 hours to play, someone remembers "oh i want to kill someone so i go ask for 20 million" they kill me so i migh be able to play tomorrow, tomorrow happens the same thing i migh get to level 90 in a year.

Oh well but that is just me
well Loken you are server admin you if possible recheck the rule pvp and do something about the term stop or i kill you . role play is a vast camp and very hard to understand in fact im trying to realaise the difrence of roleplay and player vs player.
The rule is simple, and there are TONS of routes out there. Literally TONS. You are allotted time to leave the system you are dead in if you respawn there. There is no issue here.

Respawn in a system you were killed in? Get out without trying to take cargo with you. If you are constantly harassed by a pirate when you are trying to do so, take screens and report them because they are breaking the rules (perhaps PM them to let them know POLITY first to make sure it's not an honest mistake).
What V said and also;


(01-25-2013, 09:57 PM)PTFox Wrote: [ -> ]im trying to realaise the difrence of roleplay and player vs player.

There isnt one.

You arnt forced to PVP, if you dont want to, hire an escort, ask the police, go stealth mode. Whatever you'd do in real life if you knew there were pirates around.
(01-25-2013, 10:30 PM)Hone Wrote: [ -> ]What V said and also;


(01-25-2013, 09:57 PM)PTFox Wrote: [ -> ]im trying to realaise the difrence of roleplay and player vs player.

There isnt one.

You arnt forced to PVP, if you dont want to, hire an escort, ask the police, go stealth mode. Whatever you'd do in real life if you knew there were pirates around.

Of course there is, Role-Playing is one thing and Player Vs Player is another, both completely different… in this game & server, both happen to coexist.

PvP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_versus_player
PvE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_versus_environment
RP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role_playing


…Now in my opinion the rules should be really reviewed.

If you ask me the 4 hour rule it’s just plain silly. If anything, I believe it should be the pirate who should be prevented from killing that player for the next 4 hours, not preventing the player of entering in the system that was killed for 4 bloody hours!
I mean, isn’t it enough that the player is killed, losing all his cargo, and probably ending up by re-spawning back at the middle-of-ass nowhere? He also has to be forbidden to returning to that system, most likely screwing up his entire trading route or whatever he was doing there…

I mean, usually video games with world PvP use some kind of Karma system, that from what I have seen work exactly the opposite way of the system being used here, that ends up by punishing the PK’d player instead the PK’er.

Yeah, I know that the player MAY have the chance to do something else, or just to use another system to do whatever he was doing… but c’mon, I’m sure you are aware that those will have pirates too, not only that, but how many of those players actually have multiple pirate characters, allowing them to bypass the rule that states they are only allowed to tax a player once a day?

…another funny rule is the one we ain’t allowed to disconnect when interacting with another player. Did you ever happen to get disconnected? Yeah, funny thing about that, when you get disconnected your character takes X time to actually leave the server if not docked, leaving it completely vulnerable to attacks, you know what happens when you are lucky enough to get disconnected while a pirate tax’s you? You’ll get killed while cloaking & reported at the forum for breaking the rules, possibly ending up by having to pay a fine or whatever…

I mean, the game itself already has something to prevent players from just disconnecting to avoid being taxed or whatever, what’s exactly the point of this rule?

Honestly, in my opinion, the system just bends towards the people who decide to play as a pirate around here, one of the reasons why I just moved to the Non-RP server, I mean bloody hell, just by reading this thread I guess it’s safe to say that almost no one fully understands the rules =/
(01-26-2013, 03:36 AM)Myobi Wrote: [ -> ]allowing them to bypass the rule that states they are only allowed to tax a player once a day?

That's not a rule Big Grin

Have fun at your server mate. If you do want to keep playing Disco I'm sure I can help you get a better grasp of things if you'd like (PM me). Because by your last post it seems that all that's going on here is a misunderstanding of the rules and the balances of the system that is Disco.
(01-26-2013, 03:46 AM)Veygaar Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-26-2013, 03:36 AM)Myobi Wrote: [ -> ]allowing them to bypass the rule that states they are only allowed to tax a player once a day?

That's not a rule Big Grin

Have fun at your server mate. If you do want to keep playing Disco I'm sure I can help you get a better grasp of things if you'd like (PM me). Because by your last post it seems that all that's going on here is a misunderstanding of the rules and the balances of the system that is Disco.

It is not? Odd, I could swear I had seen that somewhere. Well, in that case… it’s even worst then I tough >.<; Also, I’m still playing at Disco server for now, just at the no-RP server.

Still, big thanks for the offer but I’ll just pass, I’m enjoying myself playing on a smaller and peaceful server, plus the rules are way simpler =P
(01-26-2013, 03:36 AM)Myobi Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-25-2013, 10:30 PM)Hone Wrote: [ -> ]What V said and also;


(01-25-2013, 09:57 PM)PTFox Wrote: [ -> ]im trying to realaise the difrence of roleplay and player vs player.

There isnt one.

You arnt forced to PVP, if you dont want to, hire an escort, ask the police, go stealth mode. Whatever you'd do in real life if you knew there were pirates around.

Of course there is, Role-Playing is one thing and Player Vs Player is another, both completely different… in this game & server, both happen to coexist.

PvP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_versus_player
PvE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_versus_environment
RP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role_playing

Oh man...

Hahaha, what to say?

Well the best advice I can give you really buddy, is to forget about wikipedia, just have fun and do what you'd do in that situation in reality. If its INRP for someone to engage in pvp, its roleplay.


Oh and read the rules yourself before saying others dont know em. "Heard it somewhere" is not reliable remember.
(01-26-2013, 05:03 AM)Hone Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-26-2013, 03:36 AM)Myobi Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-25-2013, 10:30 PM)Hone Wrote: [ -> ]What V said and also;


(01-25-2013, 09:57 PM)PTFox Wrote: [ -> ]im trying to realaise the difrence of roleplay and player vs player.

There isnt one.

You arnt forced to PVP, if you dont want to, hire an escort, ask the police, go stealth mode. Whatever you'd do in real life if you knew there were pirates around.

Of course there is, Role-Playing is one thing and Player Vs Player is another, both completely different… in this game & server, both happen to coexist.

PvP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_versus_player
PvE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_versus_environment
RP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Role_playing

Oh man...

Hahaha, what to say?

Well the best advice I can give you really buddy, is to forget about wikipedia, just have fun and do what you'd do in that situation in reality. If its INRP for someone to engage in pvp, its roleplay.


Oh and read the rules yourself before saying others dont know em. "Heard it somewhere" is not reliable remember.

Ya know, most of times when I don’t know what to say, I just don’t say anything at all.

I’ll say it again, you are wrong. PvP is one thing, RP is another, both completely different things, one does not need another to exist, but still both can coexist just fine. You can role-play any role you want without forcing PvP on another playing if you wish so… that I can assure you.

If you take a look at games such as World of Warcraft, for example, you may find different types of servers, such as PvP Servers, RP Servers and RP/PvP Servers, if “PvP=RP”, may I ask why the 3 different kinds of servers? Before you answer, let you give you my “best advice”, do give those Wikipedia links a look.

Also, while you are at it, please do read my post again, I mean, I’m glad you found my post amusing, but I never said things such as “others don’t know the rules”, I did say however that many people in this thread don’t seem to fully understand them (again 2 complete different things), if you go back a couple of posts I’m sure you’ll find a bunch of contradictions, just as I did.
Well as amusing as this is, I wouldnt want to get into an argument over the internet, especially not one with someone new. Im sure youll change your mind many times as you become more accustomed to Disco, your right that the rules are confusing.

So maybe we'll see each other in a few months and we'll see what you think then, for now ciao, have fun.
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