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+------ Thread: *MR| - Republica de Malta (/showthread.php?tid=171753)
RE: *MR| - Republica de Malta - Shiki - 11-24-2019
(11-24-2019, 08:08 AM)Spectre Wrote: I can understand the concerns, and I am actively trying to avoid them.
Uh, I mean you can count that people are blind or stupid, but you are evidently trying to do the opposite. I won't dig too deep and just see one of the recent comms, just few would be enough.
1. https://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=174487
You replying as CR on MR matter and completely covering MR rear.
2. https://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=170979&pid=2099029#pid2099029
Literally replying to MR comms as CR, I asumme you were likely under MR account there as well.
3. https://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=171051
You are literally swapping ships from HF to MR.
4. https://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=174179
CR literally hosting MR now, that happens when you are HC and leader, not a ceasefire or something. Then again both faction alts so there's a probability something fishy going on too like in case number 2.
RE: *MR| - Republica de Malta - Maltz - 11-24-2019
(11-22-2019, 11:20 AM)Charo Wrote: Considering what HF, IMG, and CR have done to the Outcasts, turning to them for allies and then trying to snatch control of Malta
Someone should explain to me, why it isn't powergaming.
RE: *MR| - Republica de Malta - Spectre - 11-24-2019
@"Ironblood"
https://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=171140
It was during the dying days of the war, but the *MR| did actually reach out to the IMG to try and reestablish contact.
@"Sicicega"
The Abaddon had been under the *MR|'s inRP control for over a year when I made that SRP request. The only reason it's so recent is because the SRP thread for the ship literally didn't exist and needed to be remade to give the ship the ability to be swapped over. It's a victim of time, and not a part of this conspiracy theory of yours.
Everything else is mostly just a product of me being the person in CR HC most familiar with the CR's past dealings with the 72nd, as well as a general lack of presence to matters that required expedition. I won't deny they look scummy, and I personally don't enjoy RPing with myself, but when no one else can or is willing to respond then I'll step in, even if it's a minor case.
Friendly reminder that every single one of those cases you pointed out was before my transition to CR 1ic. It may not help it, but the environment of which I responded to those comms adds in a level of detail I feel is rather important.
@Maltz
Because it's a generally simplified statement referring to over three years of development.
The faction began trying to oppose the nomad worshipping Crimson Cross, then began opposing the NC after they absorbed the Crimson Cross, began to look to Malta's enemies to break their hold and liberate Malta from the infestation, and absorbed their ideals. This by itself is another simplified explanation, but it's a bit more telling than the other example.
RE: *MR| - Republica de Malta - ReynassaDrevyn - 11-24-2019
(11-24-2019, 06:41 PM)Spectre Wrote: @Maltz
Because it's a generally simplified statement referring to over three years of development.
The faction began trying to oppose the nomad worshipping Crimson Cross, then began opposing the NC after they absorbed the Crimson Cross, began to look to Malta's enemies to break their hold and liberate Malta from the infestation, and absorbed their ideals. This by itself is another simplified explanation, but it's a bit more telling than the other example.
So, some outcast dislike the nommieworshipping and so they find their new allies in their ancient old enemies...
Yeah,right...
And basically you are the faction leader of both factions....
I remember this kind of stuff from when I left seven or eight years ago, one or two man power/meta gaming to get techcompat for shiny toys. Nothing else. Nothing new. Just powergaming for personal gain.
RE: *MR| - Republica de Malta - Shiki - 11-24-2019
So you don't deny RPing with yourself. Okay I mean, a high standard is set. I can't even imagine what levels of discord diplomacy are there if you are doing such things publically and consider it normal. Things I linked are not minor things as you say, they are mainline things of your faction development.
(11-24-2019, 06:41 PM)Spectre Wrote: just a product of me being the person in CR HC most familiar with the CR's past dealings with the 72nd
I have no doubt that you are aware of your own RP friend. That's a weak argument. In the previous post that I addressed, you said that you are trying to avoid circlejerk, or rather masturbation in that case... Now you are kind of admitting the opposite. You could've linked your past RP to any other CR member and let them decide how to handle that case. The point of CR having a lack of members is rather not valid. Faction is quite active from what I see.
Crayter Republic =CR= 4d 01:50:28 1d 17:21:31 5d 19:11:59 20d 16:33:50
You did not provide a valid explanation of points raised by @Charo about CR and Outcasts being arch-enemies with years of bloodshed behind and how you that develop into the alliance by you replying to your own comms. You are violently raping lore of both factions there and the only thing I see is you say that you were LITERALLY FORCED to RP with yourself while trying to avoid it by all means possible.
RE: *MR| - Republica de Malta - Spectre - 11-24-2019
Shiki. Let's be reasonable here.
We've both contributed to the raping of the Outcast lore. Let's admit it, shake hands and go our separate ways.
I don't deny it, no. I have that level of shame to admit that I've screwed up at times.
Responding to my own RP is an unfortunate scenario, and given a look back it was avoidable. I make mistakes. You make mistakes. We all do.
This whole drama over relations and breaching our own lore is ending. We will make aims to correct our mistakes and continue with our officialdom request in a manner that furthers our intentions while keeping the gripe of bitter hypocrites at bay.
RE: *MR| - Republica de Malta - Shiki - 11-24-2019
Reply to personal attack is under spoiler, as I suppose it is not directly related to the matter.
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Spoiler
. I see no drama, nor I decide should you be official or not. Feedback exists to voice concerns about faction and official faction is supposed to set standards of RP. I am personally not sure if that's a standard that we need to be set. Because faction based on questionable diplomacy by itself which is then based on questionable RP. You are still not providing reasoning for CR alliance, but whatever I suppose. I was kinda shocked today as I looked deeper into this because I didn't know that you are self-rping. I only heard about it but I thought it was some sort of memeing.
I believe I have nothing else to say, doing self repeat, it's all kind of obvious and up for staff to vote. Unless you want to discuss this any further.
edit to reply below: no spectre, there's neutrality, not friendship. and i was involved by the time it was decided for the second time.
RE: *MR| - Republica de Malta - Republica de Malta - 11-24-2019
I'm not discussing it further, but I will point out that PMs exist. My intent was not to impose any 'personal attack', and merely to point out RP leading to the Core's friendship with the OCs that you happened to be involved in.
But yeah. It's getting rather petty now.
EDIT: Rookie mistake.. posting on the faction account...
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RE: *MR| - Republica de Malta - StDH - 12-07-2019
(11-24-2019, 08:08 AM)Spectre Wrote: I do understand where you're coming from, though, and I am trying to prevent a.. 'single-man circlejerk'.
https://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=110046&pid=2124060#pid2124060
(12-07-2019, 10:19 AM)Spectre Wrote: Name of player(s)/faction(s): =CR= and Crayter Republic indies
Name of Player Owned Base: Tortuga
Link to RP showing intent to attack: Core 1
Tortuga is an Outcast base, yet we're sieging MR base in Tau-44 and MR is nowhere to be seen defending it. A certain CR player voiced his own concern about the Outcast base in CR space yet You (as CR) posted an attack declaration thread while claiming that you're "trying to prevent a.. 'single-man circlejerk'."
When will you stop using CR to do your bidding and actually log MR? Perhaps it's really time to consider using a different ID as you were also FR5'ed.
RE: *MR| - Republica de Malta - Nika - 12-07-2019
I... have to admit this time he has a point. Looking at the Apostatas who were essentially *MR| of the Corsairs and have at some point switched to the Freelancer ID prior to getting their OF ID.