Quote:Server Rule 2.1 System and local chats are to be kept in roleplay and in English at all times. Any OOC (Out of character) chat should be marked with " // " and only used when absolutely necessary. OOC communication in group or private chat between players will cease if one player requests it. Admins are free to communicate with any player at any time.
2.2 Threatening other players with reports and sanctions or attempting to pose as an Admin is not allowed.
Consequences: You know, when you told the player (in local chat) that he was in violation of Sirius Laws and ID violations, I kinda winced. When you told him, "shhh, I need to take a picture," that crossed the line. Telling someone they have broken the rules and then telling them you're taking a picture is the same as threatening to report. Don't tell him, just do it.
It appears you either deleted the ship or sold it. So, I took the credits off of one of your others.
If you post in this sanction and are not directly involved or a leader of the accused person's faction be advised that you are consenting to be subjected to the reprisal of my choice which may involve in game repercussions up to a ban.
Blaming members of your immediate family, neighbours, friends, pets, and assorted Orcs, Trolls and any other legendary creatures may result in the use of Admin Right #CTE 750AE
(12-03-2013, 01:12 AM)Garrett_Jax Wrote: Lucus has been sanctioned for:
Quote:Server Rule 2.1 System and local chats are to be kept in roleplay and in English at all times. Any OOC (Out of character) chat should be marked with " // " and only used when absolutely necessary. OOC communication in group or private chat between players will cease if one player requests it. Admins are free to communicate with any player at any time.
2.2 Threatening other players with reports and sanctions or attempting to pose as an Admin is not allowed.
Consequences: You know, when you told the player (in local chat) that he was in violation of Sirius Laws and ID violations, I kinda winced. When you told him, "shhh, I need to take a picture," that crossed the line. Telling someone they have broken the rules and then telling them you're taking a picture is the same as threatening to report. Don't tell him, just do it.
It appears you either deleted the ship or sold it. So, I took the credits off of one of your others.
If you post in this sanction and are not directly involved or a leader of the accused person's faction be advised that you are consenting to be subjected to the reprisal of my choice which may involve in game repercussions up to a ban.
Blaming members of your immediate family, neighbours, friends, pets, and assorted Orcs, Trolls and any other legendary creatures may result in the use of Admin Right #CTE 750AE
Please send me a fixed link to the sanction order, as i do not, for the life of me remember saying anything about what is posted above.
Edit:
I re-read the posting. Yet when i went to check my chat logs, it had been updated to 1.12.2013 chat activity. So i cannot check my own logs as i did not know it reset the log. If you would, possibly send me the chat log of the server during that time. and or re check them yourself, as i asked them to shh as i was taking a photo of planet manhattan. Which you can see here: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/ehun.png/ http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/571/4yuu.png/
Which i uploaded/ linked them to the Discovery Facebook pretty much on the same day, btw. So, Check again, as you are wrong... (I admit, I sometimes, say things, out of term such as "your breaking rules" but i usually say it when im pretty sure they are, and i am sure it was not directed to any of the people i asked to "Shhh".)
Another thing is, I said shh because two people came over to me and started chatting, so i asked them to shh. Probably not in the most friendly way but i did say thank you. Plus chat doesn't hide away, when you do the hud hide key... and i was a little ways away from the docking ring of manhattan so i was out of range to hear them chat (Before they came over).
You're first statement, "According to Sirius law, and the rules set by the ID's, you were breaking the law and will be reported." This is a mix of RP and OORP chat. Sirius law is rp, ID's are OORP. Mentioning them as being broken and being reported is against server rules.
You're second statement, "Rules that can get you sanctioned," was a confirmation of OORP chat. Everything you said after that about taking pictures was seen as part of your threat to report, regardless of what your intentions were.
You're first statement, "According to Sirius law, and the rules set by the ID's, you were breaking the law and will be reported." This is a mix of RP and OORP chat. Sirius law is rp, ID's are OORP. Mentioning them as being broken and being reported is against server rules.
You're second statement, "Rules that can get you sanctioned," was a confirmation of OORP chat. Everything you said after that about taking pictures was seen as part of your threat to report, regardless of what your intentions were.
I remember now, The thing i said, was directed to C*******, he was a freelancer and he was attacking a liberty navy iff/id named **** that is why i said it and then he said "Im collecting a bounty" and i said Alright Freelancer.
Secondly if you avoid the my part of the story and only take it how you take it, then the reporting system is a flaw. You say it is a Trial yet you dont take in the person being questioned. I took pictures of Planet manhattan and only planet manhattan If i took pictures other than that where are they? Did i report any one? No, and if your telling me im getting 100m removed cause you miss read it and dont care to take it from my story then, i am done with this game.
And yet you don't care to confirm it via Server logs, yet how do i know you didnt? I am assuming, Like you are.
*Walks away before throwing a crew member out the airlock*
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Quote:You're first statement, "According to Sirius law, and the rules set by the ID's, You were breaking the law and will be reported." This is a mix of RP and OORP chat. Sirius law is rp, ID's are OORP. Mentioning them as being broken and being reported is against server rules.
Yep, i did say that. and i didnt know it was wrong to give the guy a warning about his actions. Which he did confirm he was doing it for a bounty which then i said Alright. Oh and if you didnt notice that is at the top of the chat.
Quote:... Everything you said after that about taking pictures was seen as part of your threat to report, regardless of what your intentions were.
Oh really, Well, since there is no Time period between the chat as you, seem to not have on the photos, i was at max 10k away from the place they were fighting Which was near the docking ring of manhattan. Why does that matter, because, There is time between me saying that and the shh. Then the guy who reported me came over next to me while i was away from them in the first place, and started talking. The chat doesnt hide when you hit the button as i said, IF it did i would not have said Sh.
Like i said before, Check server logs.
Sure you can charge me for OORP which i am working on, as i am "Newish" to rp. Charging me for anything else, is false and i want this sorted out.
Example,
You are an average day player of the game, (Not an admin, not a moderator, just an average player) You come to take pictures of a planet, and while going out you see a freelancer attacking liberty navy, Which i would assume would break sirus laws. Yet he explained to you he was collecting a bounty, so you say alright and continue on.
You're about 10k away from the docking ring, to avoid hearing the convos and having players in the photo. You start taking pictures every ~3 minutes to get a different location on the planet and out of no where, the liberty navy fellow comes over while your taking photos, and so you say shh to the fellows purposely coming over to you as the chat doesn't Hide away as well. after they stop talking you take a photo, and say thank you, and continue on.
Which you can see in the photos i was traveling away from him. Which, if you look on the second one, the scroll bar isnt all the way down at the bottom.
(12-07-2013, 12:27 AM)ebez2010 Wrote: As The Reporter Of this Offense
I see This Sanction As Resoloved
Also For Your Information
I Was Hunting a Bounty For The Contari Lance
Are you the freelancer? or were you the Liberty navy. Because i directed my Rp/OORP tords the freelancer. Which later clarified why he was attacking the liberty Iff/id player. Ill accept this for the OORP, BUt i will not accept that this was what i was charged for>
"... When you told him, "shhh, I need to take a picture," that crossed the line. Telling someone they have broken the rules and then telling them you're taking a picture is the same as threatening to report. Don't tell him, just do it."
There is time between the chats, and the convo's are directed tords two different people. I will not be subjected to a sanction at a lack of information that this guy cares not about.
And once again, I am resigning from a game, a faction, and a home, that has been good to me because an admin doesn't get his facts straight.
(12-07-2013, 01:08 AM)ebez2010 Wrote: The Navy Was The Bounty Target
The photos are taken from the Navy guy. Meaning, You were no where near me when i said shh to the navy fellow. And specifically, your name isnt even on the nav list. So, you had no part of any communication after i said the part about the breaking sirius law. So, im really offended by the lack of time spent to look into this further.