(04-20-2014, 06:29 PM)lIceColon Wrote: Also, this is a game. People play a game for a variety of reasons. The pure open-endedness of FL is so that not everything has to revolve around killing. People who prefer to stay peaceful and roleplay a none shooting character should have the option to do so. People have different ideas of fun, and I could just as easy criticize you for your application of retarded and arcane medieval-ideals in the space age. Players who want to be neutral should be alowed their RP. Players who want shooting should be allowed the means to do so. This is a multiplayer game, players come here primarily for their own entertainment, nobody came here to service your personal ideas of how a player in a video game "should" act.
have you tried not undocking
or going out to omicron lost or something
or, heaven forbid, actual decent diplomatic RP done on your part? lord knows that might be asking a bit much from many of discovery's entitled zoners and co. though
(04-20-2014, 03:26 PM)Bloodl1ke Wrote: Unless of course the admins say zoners can't be declared war upon, because it'll hurt the fragile feelings of people who want to be neutral in a space game where everyone is armed with weapons and ready to kill people. Come to think of it doesn't this remind you of medieval times when killing was pretty much okay unless against friends and allies?
In medieval times knights also frequently crap and piss in their armor because it was too inconvenient to get out of the armor.
Also, this is a game. People play a game for a variety of reasons. The pure open-endedness of FL is so that not everything has to revolve around killing. People who prefer to stay peaceful and roleplay a none shooting character should have the option to do so. People have different ideas of fun, and I could just as easy criticize you for your application of retarded and arcane medieval-ideals in the space age. Players who want to be neutral should be alowed their RP. Players who want shooting should be allowed the means to do so. This is a multiplayer game, players come here primarily for their own entertainment, nobody came here to service your personal ideas of how a player in a video game "should" act.
The fact that you took this thread seriously amuses me.
(04-20-2014, 07:45 PM)Bloodl1ke Wrote: Freelancer ID is the truly neutral ID. As non-faction and widespread the zoners are they still wave a flag they can be hated under.
(04-18-2014, 07:31 AM)Jansen Wrote: The GRN and Zoners used to be hostile when Dab was still around, that was a long time ago and it got resolved somewhen in the last one or two years, maybe more.
So no, GRN is not explicitly hostile to Zoners.
(04-18-2014, 07:31 AM)Jansen Wrote: So no, GRN is not explicitly hostile to Zoners.
top lel
Someone hasn't noticed GRN| being literally the server's best-oiled Zoner-deleting machine for, like, the past year.
Funny story... In the very frst version of the GRN diplomatic status, in the very first faction status post which was written by myself and Exile, the GRN were hostile to zoners.
Dab was actually the person who made GRN and Zoners NOT hostile... And in doing so made a gargantuan mess which resulted in a very high profile falling-out with the TAZ - that was the point at which people started crying (because Dab's princess zoner whatsit rp was daft). It had nothing to do with anyone being upset about zoners getting shot. It was only ever that Dab's RP was deemed silly.
But the truth was the GRN had been hostile to any and all zoners since the original birth of the faction. The funny thing about all factions which claim neutrality, is that they are (almost) universally awful at upholding and maintaining it, taking it as a given right, rather than something which requires constant attention and work. After Dab made the zoners friendly, then made them hostile again, everyone started misunderstanding the issue... The problem was not that zoners were getting shot - The problem was that the diplomatic status had been changed so often that nobody knew what was going on - and the victim complex ridden zoners of the era, thought that this was personal oorp persecution, or something... When infact it was one guy being unable to make is damned mind up.
(04-18-2014, 07:31 AM)Jansen Wrote: The GRN and Zoners used to be hostile when Dab was still around, that was a long time ago and it got resolved somewhen in the last one or two years, maybe more.
So no, GRN is not explicitly hostile to Zoners.
(04-18-2014, 07:31 AM)Jansen Wrote: So no, GRN is not explicitly hostile to Zoners.
top lel
Someone hasn't noticed GRN| being literally the server's best-oiled Zoner-deleting machine for, like, the past year.
Funny story... In the very frst version of the GRN diplomatic status, in the very first faction status post which was written by myself and Exile, the GRN were hostile to zoners.
Dab was actually the person who made GRN and Zoners NOT hostile... And in doing so made a gargantuan mess which resulted in a very high profile falling-out with the TAZ - that was the point at which people started crying (because Dab's princess zoner whatsit rp was daft). It had nothing to do with anyone being upset about zoners getting shot. It was only ever that Dab's RP was deemed silly.
But the truth was the GRN had been hostile to any and all zoners since the original birth of the faction. The funny thing about all factions which claim neutrality, is that they are (almost) universally awful at upholding and maintaining it, taking it as a given right, rather than something which requires constant attention and work. After Dab made the zoners friendly, then made them hostile again, everyone started misunderstanding the issue... The problem was not that zoners were getting shot - The problem was that the diplomatic status had been changed so often that nobody knew what was going on - and the victim complex ridden zoners of the era, thought that this was personal oorp persecution, or something... When infact it was one guy being unable to make is damned mind up.
But y'know... whatever.
Joe's explanation fits with what ive heard from the elder TAZ popes. Dab's "RP" created so many problems, we have the mess it is now. I dont think TAZ minds butting heads with GRN occassionally, because TAZ-GRN arguments are always so fun.