(02-02-2015, 10:45 PM)Cashew Wrote: We are working on relations with the 343 so we should make some activity in the Taus and Kusari - even Leeds.
Not to be rude, but seeing your "working on relations with the 343" now, it summed up to ooRP and inRP lack of any contact, after multiple attemps from boss' side. Not to mention rudeness towards the group one day from Zenith, what made all the 343 people so discouraged they almost wanted to leave the battle - with myself included. Instead of allowing us doing our job, your group laughed over our attempt of tactic - which is part of our roleplay - inside the group chat with other players. Sure, we aren't perfect in PvP, but at least we keep some decent roleplay both in game and on the forums.
This is not how you run player faction diplomacy with same affiliation player faction. This is how you discourage players from having fun.
(02-02-2015, 10:45 PM)Cashew Wrote: We are working on relations with the 343 so we should make some activity in the Taus and Kusari - even Leeds.
Not to be rude, but seeing your "working on relations with the 343" now, it summed up to ooRP and inRP lack of any contact, after multiple attemps from boss' side. Not to mention rudeness towards the group one day from Zenith, what made all the 343 people so discouraged they almost wanted to leave the battle - with myself included. Instead of allowing us doing our job, your group laughed over our attempt of tactic - which is part of our roleplay - inside the group chat with other players. Sure, we aren't perfect in PvP, but at least we keep some decent roleplay both in game and on the forums.
This is not how you run player faction diplomacy with same affiliation player faction. This is how you discourage players from having fun.
The reason that there hasn't been any inrp contact between the groups is because we are infact working on our own RP and thus have not had the time to dedicate the time towards increasing diplomatic relations. ooRP wise, considering your own performance at the event the other day was ridiculous. I can understand why we would not want to work with your group. The whole group chat wanted you to switch from your bombers to fighters, since we only had two in the beginning. Let alone the fact you were 30K away while you were in your bombers, that's not a "tactic". The event specified the fact we were to meet in a designated area, you were not there - you made up a large amount of our forces. It's understandable for the -whole- group to be annoyed at 343. When you say "laughed" - it's fair to say the situation of us trying to explain the importance of you switching to fighters and re-joining the main fleet was getting to the point where you wouldn't listen. How else are we going to react?
I think you lacked some common sense in that event. We didn't attend the second one, plainly because of your ignorance and lack of team skills. If that's what you call fun then.. Okay.
(02-17-2015, 08:40 AM)xiphos Wrote: I am still curious why people think the Colonials are in a friendly relationship to the Exile. Let alone cordial.
Other than that. The write up is a nice one.
Hey man, we wanted to start working on relations with the Colonials (I think they're called Crayter Republic or something now s: ) so we plonked them higher up the chain.
@Torris James Gray
Just looking at Cashew's reply here so I wanted to give you guys a tip.
When you are in a group fight with more experienced fighters (like Zenith, I can tell by my own fights against them, and 343) you listen to them. That's not about RP matters, it's about enlarging your chances to win the event. Same way when I am flying my GRN| and I give commands to people higher ranks than me, sometimes, because I am the most experienced and currently in the field (though that doesn't happen much, about twice so far). When they've told you that your tactic of staying in 30k away won't do good, it wasn't out of hate of mockery - it was because during the phase that it'd take you to arrive at the scene we could very well kill one of their own, or at least do considerable damage, and when they told you to change from bombers - they only wanted you to be more effective in a fight that was going to be mostly snub-based one, as we had only 1 cruiser and no more capitals at the start of the fight.
I do hope to see future cooperation between the 2 factions, and there is no need to have bad-blood between you - I can assure you that it will only do harm for both factions, and if not now - in the future.
(02-17-2015, 09:59 AM)Cashew Wrote: I think you lacked some common sense in that event. We didn't attend the second one, plainly because of your ignorance and lack of team skills. If that's what you call fun then.. Okay.
Our ignorance? Lack of team skills? If you haven't butted in with your "oh, 343 so lame, hurr durr,", perhaps we would think something out instead during the battle. Not to mention I witnessed on which two or three other GRN capitals arrived, harassing Allied forces, to which we lost at least one Council cruiser.
Our bomber tactic is our own tactic, it still needs polishing, but so far it was proven able to cause massive damage. There's something like Ace In The Sleeve, and 343 was to avoid fight until cap would arrive, hitting them from up-behind or down-behind, since fighters were busy with other ships. We were to wait, watch the fight. You didn't give us a chance, moreover, you wanted to use our bombers as a bait - knowing they WILL NOT survive engagement, being an easy bait and blues for the enemy.
Waiting for perfect time to strike patiently and watching battle from above to make decision if to attack or withdraw - this is called tactic and strategy. Otherwise, it's wasting military potential.
Quote:I do hope to see future cooperation between the 2 factions, and there is no need to have bad-blood between you - I can assure you that it will only do harm for both factions, and if not now - in the future.
We aren't the ones who caused the bad-blood between groups. Zenith ignored 343 completely during several encounters, both inRP and ooRP. And it wasn't about the thing to change from bombers. We already logged bombers, we wanted to keep consistence of roleplay - instead, we were about to be used as living shields and harassed for our RP approach to the event.
I am starting to think that 343 is harassed only because I am present in this very group.
(02-17-2015, 09:59 AM)Cashew Wrote: I think you lacked some common sense in that event. We didn't attend the second one, plainly because of your ignorance and lack of team skills. If that's what you call fun then.. Okay.
Our ignorance? Lack of team skills? If you haven't butted in with your "oh, 343 so lame, hurr durr,", perhaps we would think something out instead during the battle. Not to mention I witnessed on which two or three other GRN capitals arrived, harassing Allied forces, to which we lost at least one Council cruiser.
Our bomber tactic is our own tactic, it still needs polishing, but so far it was proven able to cause massive damage. There's something like Ace In The Sleeve, and 343 was to avoid fight until cap would arrive, hitting them from up-behind or down-behind, since fighters were busy with other ships. We were to wait, watch the fight. You didn't give us a chance, moreover, you wanted to use our bombers as a bait - knowing they WILL NOT survive engagement, being an easy bait and blues for the enemy.
Waiting for perfect time to strike patiently and watching battle from above to make decision if to attack or withdraw - this is called tactic and strategy. Otherwise, it's wasting military potential.
Quote:I do hope to see future cooperation between the 2 factions, and there is no need to have bad-blood between you - I can assure you that it will only do harm for both factions, and if not now - in the future.
We aren't the ones who caused the bad-blood between groups. Zenith ignored 343 completely during several encounters, both inRP and ooRP. And it wasn't about the thing to change from bombers. We already logged bombers, we wanted to keep consistence of roleplay - instead, we were about to be used as living shields and harassed for our RP approach to the event.
I am starting to think that 343 is harassed only because I am present in this very group.
Can you calm down please? Getting all worked up about this isn't going to help, afterall, just 2 hours ago I sent a PM to your leader to ask if we could set something more permanent up. Sure you can pull the card "Ohohoho he's just doing that to get out of this," sure. We would have liked our fleet to be as one, we had sufficient caps to take out their caps. We did not have sufficient fighters, that's the issue. And anyway, that's just an event. People get worked up in events, it happens. I know for a fact I don't like losing so if anything I said did offend your group then sorry. Now I suggest we try to work together here and not start throwing accusations at eachother.
When i first saw your tag ingame, i thought it was another group of zoners, but then i noticed that you are exiles
I love the way you wrote the story, looking forward to meeting any of you ingame
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(02-17-2015, 01:48 PM)Toris James Gray Wrote: Our ignorance? Lack of team skills? If you haven't butted in with your "oh, 343 so lame, hurr durr,", perhaps we would think something out instead during the battle. Not to mention I witnessed on which two or three other GRN capitals arrived, harassing Allied forces, to which we lost at least one Council cruiser.
Our bomber tactic is our own tactic, it still needs polishing, but so far it was proven able to cause massive damage. There's something like Ace In The Sleeve, and 343 was to avoid fight until cap would arrive, hitting them from up-behind or down-behind, since fighters were busy with other ships. We were to wait, watch the fight. You didn't give us a chance, moreover, you wanted to use our bombers as a bait - knowing they WILL NOT survive engagement, being an easy bait and blues for the enemy.
Waiting for perfect time to strike patiently and watching battle from above to make decision if to attack or withdraw - this is called tactic and strategy. Otherwise, it's wasting military potential.
It can easily look like lack of team skills if people expect you to operate as a part of a team, not a separate team in itself, and cooperate with the rest of our side, only to see expectations fail. It can also easily look like ignorance if the rest of our side has to tell you that it will be a (mostly) snub fight and change your god damn whole squaron of bombers to fighters (even if partially only) for like twenty minutes, and you finally do so right when the event starts.
Next time maybe you could inform the rest of the anti-GRN side prior to the event about "your tactic", and that we should not count on you much until caps arrive, if at all.
Quote:Next time maybe you could inform the rest of the anti-GRN side prior to the event about "your tactic", and that we should not count on you much until caps arrive, if at all.
Sorry about that, but we were told that there will be plenty of caps. And I do not own 343, I'm just pilot there. Also, we did not have fighters at the time of the event. Boss just settled them up day after.