(07-15-2014, 08:23 PM)Tabris Wrote: While Rheinland COULD nationalize Stuttgart the simple fact is that doing so wouldn't be in the best interest of the mod at this time, for one it would completely remove any justification for the LWB and hit the lore of Rheinland's unlawfuls VERY hard. Plus without a Synthfoods faction it is unlikely to happen as that would also be seen as 'unfair' to the vanilla faction being sliced-diced without representation.
Well, it could be an opportunity to bring back LWB ingame. As i said in the other thread, it could transform LWB in "semi-lawful" faction. They could become Food junker or Fooder if you prefer I think there are great opportunities to bring back a faction. And about Synthpast, well, nobody play it so even if it isnt cool for them, we dont really care. And i guess that liberty gov could speak in their name if it's really needed.
Unioners would become something between Hogosha and Farmers Alliance - not really accepted but needed.
I believe problem lies with stability of the sector. SynthFoods for Rheinland is something like USA and Germany in early years of WW2. They are bound to be enemies, yet the trade is maintained for economy of both. Officially, no Liberty company is at open war with Rheinland, because the problem of those is that those span all over the Sirius. For example, Ageira, their job is to maintain repairs of the jumpgates and trade lanes.
We speak of LWB here, not unioners, it's totally different And relation between liberty and rheinland isnt the same. At the moment, liberty and rheinland are at war, not like in early years of WW2. And remember that germany nationalised a lot of foreign company between 1933 and 1945. It would be logic, even with "disco logic", to nationalise Stuttgart and give it to LWB. But i dont see LWB as fully lawful, here is what i see for their ID
Pilot carrying this quasi-lawful ID is a member of the LWB who:
Can attack any ship in self-defense, to protect another LWB ship, or in defense of a LWB base.
May treat any Synth Foods ID vessels as combat targets.
May engage in piracy outside of rheinland.
Cannot ally with any military, police, or corporate players belonging to Liberty.
Cannot use any transport with more than 4,300 cargo.
Zone of Influence: Everywhere except Liberty (has to see with bretonia)
USA became an allied in 1941 if i remember well, when deutsch sink one of their boat who was supplying UK. Before that, they were "neutral", even if in fact, they was supporting allied by economical advantage and supply. But it's different between rheinland and liberty like they are already at war.
(07-16-2014, 08:41 AM)larzac Wrote: USA became an allied in 1941 if i remember well, when deutsch sink one of their boat who was supplying UK. Before that, they were "neutral", even if in fact, they was supporting allied by economical advantage and supply. But it's different between rheinland and liberty like they are already at war.
Yeah I've noticed that they joined Allied 1941. My bad.
I know Synth Foods is vanila corporation without representation, but look at the situation from view of Rheinlander: Liberty is at war with us and the have 90% of food production of our planet! It would be more acceptable to hand it to LWB than have enemy planet in heart of Rheinland. Completely out of logic. Stuttgart could be nationalised as soon as war with Liberty started, why wasn't because Liberty-lovers?
Saying it is unfair to SF is quite ooRP, but "disco logic" which is as I said completely illogical.
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So far Synthfoods isn't doing anything to really support either side, they're content to simply grow their Synthpaste and create food rations rather than get involved, why should they? They profit from selling food to both Liberty and Rheinland which isn't illegal as it can be counted as Humanitarian Goods. Plus the war will end eventually, why would Rheinland alienate a possible 'in' on the Liberty markets that isn't hostile to them?
(07-16-2014, 11:15 AM)Absinthe Wrote: why wasn't because Liberty-lovers?
Saying it is unfair to SF is quite ooRP, but "disco logic" which is as I said completely illogical.
Because then if we applied your reasoning, we would have:
Zoners kicked out from Bering because they sit in the middle of a war zone.
Zoners kicked from Tau 29 as Gallics supposedly do not like them and remain dangerously close to anti-royalist forces.
IMG kicked from Bretonia if the government chose to nationalize their assets (which are quite a few) in order to boost the raw materials gathering and production oriented toward war resources.
IMG kicked from Tau 23 because there's already the gallic GMS to take their spot
And I'm sure there's a couple more of cases on the list to add but which I cannot be arsed to remember, as I only listed the ones I've heard the most across skype chats. You lot are just completely annoying thinking that only Rheinland is the one being treated "unfairly" here.
(07-16-2014, 11:15 AM)Absinthe Wrote: why wasn't because Liberty-lovers?
Saying it is unfair to SF is quite ooRP, but "disco logic" which is as I said completely illogical.
Because then if we applied your reasoning, we would have:
Zoners kicked out from Bering because they sit in the middle of a war zone.
Zoners kicked from Tau 29 as Gallics supposedly do not like them and remain dangerously close to anti-royalist forces.
IMG kicked from Bretonia if the government chose to nationalize their assets (which are quite a few) in order to boost the raw materials gathering and production oriented toward war resources.
IMG kicked from Tau 23 because there's already the gallic GMS to take their spot
And I'm sure there's a couple more of cases on the list to add but which I cannot be arsed to remember, as I only listed the ones I've heard the most across skype chats. You lot are just completely annoying thinking that only Rheinland is the one being treated "unfairly" here.
simply no because zoner and IMG arent corporation of a house.
Even if SynthPast dont take part of the war, they are libertonian corporation, so they support their country (and it's normal), but rheinland can resolve 2 problems with 1 hit if they nationalise Stuttgart: remove possible spy on their side (synthpast employees) and give it to LWB to stop the revolution. It would be perfectly logic. After the war, depends of who win, the planet could come back SynthPast or stay LWB, it depends of what is decided in the treaty of peace.