(05-19-2018, 03:48 PM)Omicron Wrote: I haven't even insulted you in a slightest and you already are apologetic. The point is your guys fired on Order ships, both official and indies and are INRP exiles. You shouldn't be using our IFF's anymore and the way freelancer works, you wont be able to get Order IFF and be hostile to Order at the same time.
well, we will figure this out,
quit your attitude... I haven't officially shot an order Ship in a year, Ill change that if necessary and give you a reason to not like me even more.
Just as the constant increase of entropy is the basic law of the universe, so it is the basic law of life to struggle against entropy. - V. Havel
That's perfectly fine if they use any other ID & IFF combo (hell, terrorist is more than ok and I have to agree with Nodoka there) available in the game that makes sense. Order ID & IFF no longer is an option for the two founding characters in question by their own choices. They are known traitors and wouldn't be welcomed in Order space.
Your pal Spectre shot Order ships on several occasions and vowed to kill us all both publicly and on own personal forum RP. That's simply unnacceptable to not treat you the same at this point.
Yet again, stop trying to redirect your own shortcomings on me. I am only surprised to see it here.
(05-19-2018, 03:52 PM)Omicron Wrote: That's perfectly fine if they use any other ID & IFF combo (hell, terrorist is more than ok and I have to agree with Nodoka there) available in the game that makes sense. Order ID & IFF no longer is an option for the two founding characters in question by their own choices. They are known traitors and wouldn't be welcomed in Order space.
Your pal Spectre shot Order ships on several occasions and vowed to kill us all both publicly and on own personal forum RP. That's simply unnacceptable to not treat you the same at this point.
Yet again, stop trying to redirect your own shortcomings on me. I am only surprised to see it here.
That's fine, Not sure if you noticed but the Faction is not even in the game yet, as our SRPs don't even rock the tag. We are getting this off the ground and any help you give us in terms of ID and IFF and anything else is appreciated.
Just as the constant increase of entropy is the basic law of the universe, so it is the basic law of life to struggle against entropy. - V. Havel
(05-19-2018, 03:52 PM)Omicron Wrote: Your pal Spectre shot Order ships on several occasions and vowed to kill us all both publicly and on own personal forum RP. That's simply unnacceptable to not treat you the same at this point.
(05-19-2018, 03:44 PM)Kalhmera Wrote: We want to bring back the Order to its conception, back to how Orillion led it
You mean what the Order was in vanilla? An Illuminati of Freelancer that controls the internal power struggles of all factions within Sirius and makes sure that no group is ever more powerful than another?
(05-19-2018, 03:50 PM)Kalhmera Wrote: how can we proceed then?
(05-19-2018, 04:03 PM)Laz Wrote: You mean what the Order was in vanilla? An Illuminati of Freelancer that controls the internal power struggles of all factions within Sirius and makes sure that no group is ever more powerful than another?
It's extremely difficult to even come close to this degree of influence it but we're doing it one unlawful faction at the time.
(05-19-2018, 04:03 PM)Laz Wrote: You mean what the Order was in vanilla? An Illuminati of Freelancer that controls the internal power struggles of all factions within Sirius and makes sure that no group is ever more powerful than another?
Yes, but the difference between the Order of 800 AS and Order of 825 AS, is the latter has engaged in wanton acts of violence at the cost of innocent civilians in RP. The Pre-Disco Order were never actively involved in the Bloodshed of the houses or their internally warring factions, outside of things such as the Destruction of the Donau among other actions which were more or less for the protection of mankind against the Nomads.
Yes, the Order are a terrorist faction, but they're terrorists for the sake of fighting against the nomads, not being your run-of-the-mill terrorists with a anti-government agenda.
Omicron: Lets not put memes in a faction feedback section... and just because something is difficult does not mean its impossible
Laz: Maybe, its not something we are going to take out but we are leaning to more Nomad style RP just like Orillion, and the question of how to proceed was not directed towards you but the person quoted. Thanks.
Just as the constant increase of entropy is the basic law of the universe, so it is the basic law of life to struggle against entropy. - V. Havel
(05-19-2018, 04:03 PM)Laz Wrote: You mean what the Order was in vanilla? An Illuminati of Freelancer that controls the internal power struggles of all factions within Sirius and makes sure that no group is ever more powerful than another?
Yes, but the difference between the Order of 800 AS and Order of 825 AS, is the latter has engaged in wanton acts of violence at the cost of innocent civilians in RP. The Pre-Disco Order were never actively involved in the Bloodshed of the houses or their internally warring factions, outside of things such as the Destruction of the Donau among other actions which were more or less for the protection of mankind against the Nomads.
Yes, the Order are a terrorist faction, but they're terrorists for the sake of fighting against the nomads, not being your run-of-the-mill terrorists with a anti-government agenda.
The difference is that the former got others to do the killing for them inRP. You get the idea really.
If you are actually trying to achieve something like this, you guys (and the current Order) might want to give this a listen.
(05-19-2018, 04:03 PM)Laz Wrote: You mean what the Order was in vanilla? An Illuminati of Freelancer that controls the internal power struggles of all factions within Sirius and makes sure that no group is ever more powerful than another?
Yes, but the difference between the Order of 800 AS and Order of 825 AS, is the latter has engaged in wanton acts of violence at the cost of innocent civilians in RP. The Pre-Disco Order were never actively involved in the Bloodshed of the houses or their internally warring factions, outside of things such as the Destruction of the Donau among other actions which were more or less for the protection of mankind against the Nomads.
The pre-Disco Order had nobody to care about in the Omicrons besides very few Zoners. They had their relative peace (with Nomads only to keep off) which as we all know was severely disturbed in Disco.
This here isn't the thread for such discussions though.
I suppose you guys are in a tough spot. Order ID and IFF are out of question due to obvious reasons. I could go very far and say LSF ID could work, it's somewhat weird but better than FL ID which is the only real option. (LSF ID but one of the rogue LSF divisions? Something along this lines, it is far from a perfect solution though)