(08-02-2017, 11:30 PM)Tænì Wrote: Oh boy, I can't wait for the "UN sucks so I must get the Arbeiter nerfed" posts. Considering we fight GMG HFs, Liberty and Rheinland VHFs, and Odins, and we have no shotguns, no real diversity in refire, nothing.
No one has yet said it but you're the first one to point it out.
Just because the faction's playerbase sucks badly in PvP, does not mean it should get its tech(Ship) buffed to overpowered levels.
So what if you also have to fight Wraiths, Guardians, and Odins? The only ship that's faster in that list is the Wraith, not to mention that the Arbeiter also has the most armor than all of the mentioned. Just because it's the "2nd biggest VHF in the game" ( @Haste ) does not mean it should suddenly get double the firepower of most VHFs, and I'm saying double because 8 hullbusters do the same shield DPS as 6 hullbusters and 2 debs, and so it is the preferred loadout for the Arbeiter.
"We have no shotguns"
3.03 is the closest you're going to get with those 8 gun slots. (Although for some reason you have 75% with Hellfire Legion's Judgements if the tech chart is up to date)
Also I'm sure you've noticed GMG has got their new VHF and it's pretty dope, dope enough to replace the usage of their HF as their main snub ship.
You do not deserve any kind of special treatment just because you lack the skill, the hard work, to succeed in a skill-focused interaction. You are not at a PvP disadvantage, you are in the same league as the majority of house unlawful factions. You have no way to justify yourself and be given the status of a special snowflake because of your hard, hard situation.
Side note: I remember a Unioner faction led by @Sturmwind , his members flew the Arbeiter when it had 6 guns and kicked my ass with it, rivaled the Wraith, when it had 6 guns once.
About the Arbeiter, sure, put someone decent in snubs, like Wesker, you, Protege or someone else, and the ship will be OP.
But for the average playerbase we (the community) have, it isn't really as hard to shoot down. I've duelled some Arbeiters and killed them. There was actually quite some people using those after Wesker's post in flood about the way to win PvP. Some might reacall.
If I can kill someone with similar skill to myself, then the ship isn't as op in overall use as it might seem to be. It was a bit more tricky, but to be honest, I'd still prefer to fight an Arbeiter piloted by an average player than the Sabre piloted by the same lad.
The problem may become visible if one of those peeps I fought becomes a PvP ace.
Saying this as a someone widely recognized as a newb.
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(08-03-2017, 12:48 PM)thisDerius Wrote:
(08-03-2017, 01:55 AM)Wesker Wrote:
(08-03-2017, 01:09 AM)diamond1 Wrote: Git gud then. Surely they're not that hard to avoid?
>400 ms missile
"not hard to avoid"
Help me jesus.
Try flying in a funny angle. You will see how dodging works.
Except if you fly in a "funny" angle, you'll get melted by standard guns because people'll catch up on you very fast, and even then you're not safe from a 400m/s missile.