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Can we make a Gallia-led PU over Bretonia to fight Kusari and Liberty, Swifty?

Is bretonia ready to sell their soul for the greater good?

Jokes aside, peace was signed and it will be maintained that way to the disappointment of the people against it. Same way we were disappointed to learn about a blockade in the taus.

Now Kusari is another story. Perhaps (hi)"story" will repeat itself in that context.

The notion of a sector-wide broadcast is patently ridiculous anyway. Real life radio broadcasts cover thousands of square miles, and yet, you have to be tuned in to hear them. New blogs and news articles hit the internet every second, but you won't find them unless you actively go searching for them, or you've subscribed to a feed. Even then, that feed won't have everything.

Similarly, you have to be logged into the forum and looking for broadcast comms threads to find stuff like this. It's not really Sirius-wide; it's just whoever cares to read it, which is, incidentally, hardly anybody at all. This is an unhinged college radio DJ screaming into the void, not some Emergency Broadcast System message that overrides normal public programming.

(07-23-2023, 05:36 AM)Grumblesaur Wrote: [ -> ]The notion of a sector-wide broadcast is patently ridiculous anyway. Real life radio broadcasts cover thousands of square miles, and yet, you have to be tuned in to hear them. New blogs and news articles hit the internet every second, but you won't find them unless you actively go searching for them, or you've subscribed to a feed. Even then, that feed won't have everything.

Similarly, you have to be logged into the forum and looking for broadcast comms threads to find stuff like this. It's not really Sirius-wide; it's just whoever cares to read it, which is, incidentally, hardly anybody at all. This is an unhinged college radio DJ screaming into the void, not some Emergency Broadcast System message that overrides normal public programming.

This is probably the most reasonable post in this thread so far.

Discovery has major issues with scaling; the world has a population in the dozens of billions, but the actual number of players in the game and on the forums is in the low three digits. So everyone is aware of everything, any person with a little bit of free time can keep up with the sum total of all information that is created in the universe.

In my personal opinion, the post that is being complained about does kind of slide into powergaming territory. But if nothing ends up being done about it, it's best to treat it as described above: A crazy conspiracy rant on a website with black background and broken links, because that is in all likelihood what it would be treated as inrp.

(07-23-2023, 11:00 AM)Karst Wrote: [ -> ]...Discovery has major issues with scaling; the world has a population in the dozens of billions, but the actual number of players in the game and on the forums is in the low three digits...

If you're talking about Earth in 2023, total population is currently about eight billion, not dozens! We won't reach a total population of dozens of billions for many decades, more likely centuries if ever.

Total human population in the history of Earth is about 100 billion, 92% of which are dead!

(07-23-2023, 11:49 AM)Juan_Arquero Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-23-2023, 11:00 AM)Karst Wrote: [ -> ]...Discovery has major issues with scaling; the world has a population in the dozens of billions, but the actual number of players in the game and on the forums is in the low three digits...

If you're talking about Earth in 2023, total population is currently about eight billion, not dozens! We won't reach a total population of dozens of billions for many decades, more likely centuries if ever.

Total human population in the history of Earth is about 100 billion, 92% of which are dead!

Karst is referring to the "world" of Discovery, i.e. Sirius. Which indeed has several dozen billion inhabitants.

(07-23-2023, 05:36 AM)Grumblesaur Wrote: [ -> ]The notion of a sector-wide broadcast is patently ridiculous anyway. Real life radio broadcasts cover thousands of square miles, and yet, you have to be tuned in to hear them. New blogs and news articles hit the internet every second, but you won't find them unless you actively go searching for them, or you've subscribed to a feed. Even then, that feed won't have everything.

Similarly, you have to be logged into the forum and looking for broadcast comms threads to find stuff like this. It's not really Sirius-wide; it's just whoever cares to read it, which is, incidentally, hardly anybody at all. This is an unhinged college radio DJ screaming into the void, not some Emergency Broadcast System message that overrides normal public programming.

You wrote it better than I would. That and the idea where people often forget we represent such a small percentile of the total population and for the most part your character is just another drop in the sea of ships and characters doing the same things. It goes against the player idea of being the "protagonist", the hero who saves the day and majorly impacts an outcome of entire factions, wars or houses, which is appealing at a first glance. It's important to find the balance between the two, overdoing the hero arc can get too cliche too fast for the quality of the presented roleplay.

Regardless, as Loken pointed out even if someone does inRP "logically" stumble upon such a message, whether you choose to play along or ignore the entire roleplay it has no true inRP consequences on anything tangible. If it did we would be able to majorly impact storylines on our whim, and you can imagine what kind of a chaos we'd get once people started abusing it to fit their narrative.

(07-23-2023, 11:00 AM)Karst Wrote: [ -> ]Discovery has major issues with scaling; the world has a population in the dozens of billions, but the actual number of players in the game and on the forums is in the low three digits. So everyone is aware of everything, any person with a little bit of free time can keep up with the sum total of all information that is created in the universe.

In my personal opinion, the post that is being complained about does kind of slide into powergaming territory. But if nothing ends up being done about it, it's best to treat it as described above: A crazy conspiracy rant on a website with black background and broken links, because that is in all likelihood what it would be treated as inrp.

(07-23-2023, 01:42 PM)Antonio Wrote: [ -> ]You wrote it better than I would. That and the idea where people often forget we represent such a small percentile of the total population and for the most part your character is just another drop in the sea of ships and characters doing the same things. It goes against the player idea of being the "protagonist", the hero who saves the day and majorly impacts an outcome of entire factions, wars or houses, which is appealing at a first glance. It's important to find the balance between the two, overdoing the hero arc can get too cliche too fast for the quality of the presented roleplay.

On the matter of scale, it's a probabilistic issue similar to two airplanes colliding in flight. They have to be at the same altitude, headed for the same point, and completely out of communication with each other. They will almost never hit each other, even if they're both actively trying to kill each other.

A Sirius-wide communication affecting the story through a particular character depends on a lot of conditions:

• The communication has been sent unencrypted, or so trivially encrypted that anyone can break it.
  
• The character is on the appropriate communication channel.
  
• The character is paying attention to the communication.
  
• The communication is persuasive to the character.
  
• The character has the necessary free time, proximity to the problem, and ability to do something about the information they receive.
  
• The communication is not pulled or blocked by network authorities before it is complete.
  
• The character decides to do something about it.
  

It doesn't matter what the exact probabilities of these conditions are, because having to multiply them all together to get the desired outcome shrinks the probability down toward nothing. It gets even smaller when you realize you need to do this for thousands or millions of people, not just the one.

"SIRIUS-WIDE BROADCAST" considered harmful.

This is trial by forum. I would like the mods to respond to it, please.

It absolutely is. There are valid critiques of both the mode of SIrius-Wide Posting and of whether it's healthy from a gameplay/setting standpoint to leak as much as had been done all at once, but to verbatim say "we'll make the game unplayable for them" in the very second post is immensely telling of the attitude of segments of the playerbase's attitude towards the community.