PVP events with an actual outcome.

[Laura C.]

Now I understand your attitude and why you want to reduce roleplay universe and let it be heavily affected by purely PvP/playergaming actions. Why you are focused only on militaries and you don´t care how other entities of Disco universe will/could be affected.

And by the way no, also roleplay is still available on the server. At least I do it quite regularly, ingame as well as on the forums, and I know others who do it as well.

Show me at least single faction that have at least 5 days of pure RP activity.

You all for some reason believe that RP is a chit chat with another character. Well I am about to disappoint you, because PVP is part of RP as well. And you just can not change that, no matter how much you want it. With this offer I actually wish to give this sort of RP to have at least some consequences, rather then being just a senseless pew pew that will not have any outcome.

I didn´t notice you edited this. Erm, no. I´m not disappointed, I have no problem to agree that PvP is part of RP. And of course RP is not just chit chat. And I don´t want to change anything.

I respect those who are here mainly for PvP and I also said that I´m not against idea of story affected by player PvP events. But I also said it needs limits and rules. Because same as I respects that "mainly PvPers" are on the server and they have their needs, they should in same way respect those "mainly RPers" who likes chit chat and RPing trade agreements and base building etc. and their needs.

I´m confused. Since when RP activity is measured by logged time?

In case you did not notice, I was speaking about faction activity. Show me at least one faction that benefit a lot from pure RP.

We are going off topic it seems. What I said was simply reaction to

Because the only two types of activity which are now available are pvp and powermining/trading.

what sounds like RP is no longer available on this RP server. What is not true.

To return to the topic: I asked for limits because letting the RP universe be heavily affected (losing stations or even whole systems, in extreme cases even ruining whole houses) by pure PvP events is not good. In same way that you don´t like that you can´t affect the story line, I don´t like the idea that the RP universe my characters live in (and where I as a player play) will be affected only by selected small bunch of players and only by their gaming skills or even by simple luck (or lag is some cases).

To pick example with Rheinland - I don´t want to see it ruined because - imagine situation where most RM/RNC skilled players won´t be there. And the Rheinland will start to lose (and then maybe lose completely) Hamburg to Liberty, Dresden and Omega-11 to Hessains and Omega-7 and then maybe even Stuttgart to Corsairs. Within year or even less, whole house I like to play in will be reduced to two or three systems. Only because we didn´t have enough skilled players. I don´t want to see that.

Fights over one system (or two in case of Bering/Hudson for example) are okay for me. But more than that is not okay. Especially when the "fair conditions" can be questioned because no one really know what that means - or better said, there is several opinions about it (if you want to test it, create thread about it and watch the argument which will start there).

So to get to the final word and end this wall of text:

So what do you think?

I say yes, but only in limited way if you want to make these events every month. Like:
Fight over Bering, Hudson, Bremen and New Hampshire in Rheinland x Liberty war
Fight over Leeds in Bretonia x Gallia war (it´s hard to make examples here though because Gallia is already too deep in Bretonia)
Fight over Magellan in Liberty x Gallia war
Fight over Dresden (and maybe Omega-11) in Rheinland x Hessians war

I won´t write more, I hope my point is clear enough and there is too much wars in Disco to name them all

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On a ragebreak. Or ragequit. Time will tell.

[Vredes]

Haste, I can say that your point is just as valid as mine. But again, I never said random events. If LN will find their competent players, they are very welcome to join. If not, then I am sorry, why does whole sirius have to suffer because someone want to benefit Liberty and Liberty only?

Vrades, what you suggested is kind of silly. If you think that people don't RP because of those wars going, you're wrong. And if you end those wars, the server will die 100% sure. Because the only two types of activity which are now available are pvp and powermining/trading.

You clearly didnt see what I meant. I meant change the locations of the wars. Move the battlefields. Some new innovations. Thats what I meant.

[Timmy]

You clearly didnt see what I meant. I meant change the locations of the wars. Move the battlefields. Some new innovations. Thats what I meant.

Moving a battlefields is something the players should do. When did you see LN attacking RM? It is usually other way around, and unless RM goes straight for Liberty system, LN does not care. In GRN case the same story. In my opinion the fronts should be moved straight into Liberty systems to make those wars benefitial with activity. Outcast/Corsair case is getting fixed in next update as I heard, but again... Hardly players will go on and start fighting again as before. Too much time passed and nothing have been done about decissions that did only worse.

Laura, yes, this kind of limitations might be a great idea, but I'd advise to make the system the fight goes over are bit wider. For example include systems from California to Languedoc in GRN-BAF/LN war. Maybe even include parts of New London, as it kinda silly to think that war has stopped on Leeds and GRN do not move any further. Same for RM/LN war. Making Hamburg/Texas occupations possible too, partialy or fully. And so towards other factions as well. In worst case for a loosing faction it will take about half a year or even a year to go as far as the bordering core system. And no one said they can not take the base back in the same month. As I said, there is one challenge per faction every month. So if RM/LN looses a base in the proces of event, LN/RM can attack that base in order to take it back. And so and so...