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Clarification Needed: Hogosha ID
Offline Pancakes
03-02-2015, 04:18 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-02-2015, 04:19 PM by Pancakes.)
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The Hogosha ID states that it can attack Junkers everywhere. Does it extends to transports as well? Or only Junker snubs/GBs?

EDIT: Also, if it's not, can a line that lets them treat Junkers as such in their ZoI be added? The two are bitter rivals (and the same should be allowed for Junkers)

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Offline Sylvie557
03-02-2015, 04:19 PM,
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I think it was determined that the line doesn't include transports even though a lot of people thought it should.

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Offline Pavel
03-02-2015, 04:50 PM,
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Afaik you can't just "/l1 Die scum" transports and freighters anymore Amit.
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Offline SpaceTime
03-02-2015, 04:51 PM,
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Junker transports can be pirated outside Hogosha ZoI, but not treated as combat targets.
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Offline Fluffyball
03-02-2015, 04:52 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-02-2015, 04:53 PM by Fluffyball.)
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Sure, go with hunting Junkers everywhere and ID will get nerfed because of whining - what we do not want, since Hogosha ID is already kind of broken.

Of course, obviously, you cannot attack Junkers under Liberty nose. And you can't treat transports as combat targets, only Xenos can do that afaik and only against certain targets.

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Offline Pancakes
03-02-2015, 08:17 PM,
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(03-02-2015, 04:51 PM)SpaceTime Wrote: Junker transports can be pirated outside Hogosha ZoI, but not treated as combat targets.

That's the thing, it only says you can attack them, not pirate them.

(03-02-2015, 04:52 PM)Toris James Gray Wrote: Sure, go with hunting Junkers everywhere and ID will get nerfed because of whining - what we do not want, since Hogosha ID is already kind of broken.

Of course, obviously, you cannot attack Junkers under Liberty nose. And you can't treat transports as combat targets, only Xenos can do that afaik and only against certain targets.

And I didn't say it should, I only wondered about it. It should be able to treat them as combat targets inside Hogosha ZoI though, or at the very least inside Kusari.
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Offline Fluffyball
03-02-2015, 09:15 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-02-2015, 09:25 PM by Fluffyball.)
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I see no reason, on the other hand, to not to allow both factions to kill each other, no matter if transport or not.

Why?

They are enemies. It's not even rivality, it's fueled mutual hate. I see the most mortal enemy of mine, why should I care if this is transport? Registering on the board just to be able to attack transport of my enemy is at least silly.

Giving a line allowing Hogosha killing Junkers without caring much about vessel would bring activity to the Premium Scrap Highway, not only being it an idle powertrading route that barely anyone guards. It would make it even more dangerous. Hogosha are surely tie-and-tux criminals, but they also should play dirty while lawful eyes are not present.

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This is about eridication.

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03-02-2015, 10:30 PM,
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(03-02-2015, 09:15 PM)Toris James Gray Wrote: I see no reason, on the other hand, to not to allow both factions to kill each other, no matter if transport or not.

Why?

They are enemies. It's not even rivality, it's fueled mutual hate. I see the most mortal enemy of mine, why should I care if this is transport? Registering on the board just to be able to attack transport of my enemy is at least silly.
This is something I don't understand as well. I find it unrealistic that Hogosha or Junkers would spare a transport for merely being a transport. For Hogosha it's even worse as 90% of Junker ID'd ships are transports.

(03-02-2015, 09:15 PM)Toris James Gray Wrote: Giving a line allowing Hogosha killing Junkers without caring much about vessel would bring activity to the Premium Scrap Highway, not only being it an idle powertrading route that barely anyone guards. It would make it even more dangerous. Hogosha are surely tie-and-tux criminals, but they also should play dirty while lawful eyes are not present.
I had a really good idea for boosting Hogosha activity: They could hit up Premium Scrap haulers on the way to alpha, then take any confiscated Premium Scrap to Yokohama (or the IMG base even). Sadly with the recent nerfs, that won't happen.

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