A Gaian brainstorm is coming...

[bluntpencil2001]

Besides, Harris isn't going to be a big eco jungle world. It's a tourist and mining planet, meaning lots of construction, and -very- little in the way of nature. Whatever that may be.

Actually, they plan on making it a farming world, so as to prevent hunger in the future. Bretonia's government has chosen to terraform new farmland as opposed to using synthetic alternatives.

Good call on the alliance of convenience by the way, Marburg.

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[farmerman]

Blunt has summed up my confusion really rather succinctly. Why are Gaians anti Planetform?

Well, mainly because that's kind of their whole point. The Gaians dislike any change to natural environments. Terraforming is a complete change. They just want to keep the status quo and let things progress naturally.

I would say they are rather suspicious of the Kusari groups, but it's in their best interest to use that at the present. Kusari is a lot nicer ecologically than Bretonia. If they win and don't change, the Gaians will just switch targets.

Additionally, the FA doesn't like all the Synth Food actions (and the crazy fertilizers, etc) which is along the same lines - they want things in their original, farming-friendly way.

So there you have it - they are opposed to any changes in the natural environment. My personal view is they want to retain the status quo and let nature take its course, as I said.

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On the topic of Gaian thinking though, I think we should establish a leader for at least the Green Front. I would suggest one of the people mentioned in rumors as being prominent members.

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[Marburg]

Actually, they plan on making it a farming world, so as to prevent hunger in the future. Bretonia's government has chosen to terraform new farmland as opposed to using synthetic alternatives.

Good call on the alliance of convenience by the way, Marburg.

From a Gaian point of view, specifically terraforming a planet into a farming world is disasterous.

The universe is a perfect system & that system evolves on it's own schedule; not ours. Just because humans have the technology to do a thing, doesn't mean that they should do a thing.

If you accelerate geological evolution, it's a falling domino for the entire planet. No matter how smart humans think they are, & no matter how advanced the technology gets, Humans will always screw something up.

One tiny human mistake on a subatomic level will doom everything built upon it & because the planet is deprived of the proper time it takes for nature to weed out that mistake by the natural process of evolution, making all food produced on it flawed on a fundemental level that when ingested by the masses for long periods of time, will end up having far-reaching influence on the evolution of the human race itself & everything their existence effects beyond the scope of human understanding.

It's the butterfly effect, & the Gaians will not allow the evolution of the entire universe as a whole be affected because some guy in a planetform lab didn't get enough sleep one day & forgets to carry the one, or misplaces a decimal point.

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[Xoria]

I think the Gaians would be much like the American terrorist groups The Weathermen or the Symbionese Liberation Army.There would be a substantial number of supporters who are passive idealists (mostly living on Planet Cambridge), and those in the combat ships would be the hard core militants who are willing to commit violence. The idealists would spend their time bemoaning the status quo, getting high to protest against society, and making apologies for the militants, while the militants would look on the idealists as uncommitted weaklings but would still take their money.

If I were you, I would do some background research on those groups I mentioned, as well as Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) which was the ideological forerunner of the terrorist groups. James Michener's excellent book on the Kent State shooting in the 1960's would provide some fantastic background info regarding tactics, which would illustrate the way SDS operated. It's also a fairly quick read (non-fiction).

The fact is that geography changes, but human behavior does not, so those groups would be provide fantastic insights into the psychology of ideologically based terrorist groups, as opposed to those who arise out of a grudge of some sort (you stole our land, so we blow you up).

There are also environmental terrorist groups like ELF (Earth Liberation Front) which might provide more specifically tailored ideas for the Gaians. Wikipedia is a great place to start such research (ELF has an article as do the others I mentioned), and your local library will provide more in depth research opportunities.

And oh yeah, there should soon be more authentic OSC evil-doers to lampoon...actually carrying people to OSC destinations...egad! The horror!

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[Zelot]

I am actually currently working on my thesis research in American History, which coincidently is on the Students For a Democratic Society, so I have lots of information and cool stuff you may be interested in.



I think the comparison would be that the Green Front is the SDS and the Gaians are the Weather Underground. Being that the Gaians are the radicalized group that finds its ideological roots in the Green Front if I am not mistaken.

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[Jihadjoe]

Gaians are anti planetform for a very good reason.

Planetform take what is natural and alter it through unnatural ways. Gaians attempt to preserve what is natutral, thus we have a direct conflict of interests. Planetform screw with nature, gaians attempt to prserve it. Same as any ecologicaly minded group.

Very very simple.

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[bluntpencil2001]

Gaians are anti planetform for a very good reason.

Planetform take what is natural and alter it through unnatural ways. Gaians attempt to preserve what is natutral, thus we have a direct conflict of interests. Planetform screw with nature, gaians attempt to prserve it. Same as any ecologicaly minded group.

Very very simple.

That was never my issue.

My issue was with Farmers' Alliace allying with this. The Farmers' Alliance were formed to fight Synth Foods. One of Planetform's major purposes is to keep Synth Foods out of Bretonia.

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[Zelot]

That was never my issue.

My issue was with Farmers' Alliance allying with this. The Farmers' Alliance were formed to fight Synth Foods. One of Planetform's major purposes is to keep Synth Foods out of Bretonia.

First off the FA was not formed solely to combat SynthFoods, it was started to fight the scourge of foreign influence in Kusari as well as a decline in traditional Kusari values.(GC) Kusari does not need to import Synthpaste, it was the ability to produce more than enough food for it's population. Rather, Kusari is flooded with SynthPaste due to an aggressive marketing campaign and scrupulous business practices. This flood of Synthpaste has lowered the demand for Kusari grown food leaving Farmers unable to make a profit off of their product. Kusari really doesnt need to know how to produce more food, it needs to ingress demand among the Kusari population for Kusari produced food. Synthpaste is seen by certain segments of the population as a status symbol, and therefore people in those segments prefer to show their perceived superiority through Synthpase. Other segments see it as a way to fight Samura and through Samura the government.



Basically this has nothing to do with Planetforms dealings with the Gaians, nor Planetforms dealings with Synthfoods. Remember, the Gaians are not the Bretonian version of the FA and the FA is not the Kusari version of the Gaians. We both have our own priorities, but as Burg has pointed out, for the moment, the goals and priorities of both factions are forwarded by our Alliance.

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