(03-22-2016, 08:17 PM)Lythrilux Wrote: Where is the green statement?
there were at least 2 sanctions where an admin stated you need a bounty and not just that line.
I dont have time to look for it though atm so feel free to look for it. You will find it eventually.
What part of ID overrides the rules don't you understand? How do I know those sanctions aren't from before the line changes, or that many other factors are involved? I've seen people abusing the ID many times in game.
(03-22-2016, 08:40 PM)Lythrilux Wrote: What part of ID overrides the rules don't you understand? How do I know those sanctions aren't from before the line changes, or that many other factors are involved? I've seen people abusing the ID many times in game.
I know because i looked into it.
If you have a problem with it then see it for yourself, Lyth. Look for the sanction. Otherwise maybe ill have free time tomorrow to do it if i even care by then to remember.
you are escalating the problem to a new height that is not achievable from admins perspective and they will shut it down.
what part of that do you understand?
So a freelancer would not be able to help another freelancer that has been attacked that he was chilling with inRP for like 1 hour.
Comes along a rogue and starts to shoo that freelancer away but ignore the other one.
Yeah that's just great for RP, isnt it? Cripple the ID becasue you think someone will go to making the trouble to 'abuse' the ID somehow.
Edit: Wrong account. :|
Used firefox and not chrome woopsy.
I looked over the chat logs just now. It appears that everything the accuser said to you was in RP, which is fine. He was acting like a typical Lane Hacker.
I don't know whether you were the Freelancer with the Rogue IFF, or the Pirate ID player attacking without a demand, but regardless, both were acting against server rules.
Bounty rules require an actual bounty to be in place, or made in game with all parties made aware of it. Without that bounty, Freelancer ID'd players may not attack. Pirate ID requires a demand being made prior to attack. There wasn't one according to the chat logs.
I know it's frustrating to get sanctioned. The knee jerk reaction of many is to point the finger at the other player and try and justify their actions. However, I would focus more on your errors and fix those.
The Admins will determine whether someone is violating Rule 1.2 to such an extent that it warrants removal from the server. Personally, I don't see anything even remotely close to that here.
That is just one example. I would need to dig more to find the one other that was more clear.
Read the whole sanction if you want.
I was refraining from responding to your posts because, as usual, you were being ignorant.
And that sanction you posted supports that directly. Those Freelancers attacked the LH on a whim without a bounty nor assisting a non-generic ID and the Pirate ID assisted them. Generic IDs cannot assist each other. That sanction is not a green statement saying that the FL ID cannot assist whoever they want.
And I'm fairly confident that sanction was processed before the ID was changed.
(03-22-2016, 10:30 PM)Lythrilux Wrote: I was refraining from responding to your posts because, as usual, you were being ignorant.
And that sanction you posted supports that directly. Those Freelancers attacked the LH on a whim without a bounty nor assisting a non-generic ID and the Pirate ID assisted them. Generic IDs cannot assist each other. That sanction is not a green statement saying that the FL ID cannot assist whoever they want.
And I'm fairly confident that sanction was processed before the ID was changed.
I am being ignorant?
How?
Anyway, I was looking for the sanction related to it but couldn't find it at the moment. I do remember asking about it to admins and them saying a freelancer needs a bounty before engaging.
Sorry again, but i do not see how it could be abused. You are saying that a freelancer can switch between their rep easily and that is why it is abusable. Am I right?
I do not see, especially with freelancer groups that could be made, how it would be an issue... especially with them because you need your own diplomacy then,
So no... i do not believe i am ignorant. Ignorant means that i lack knowledge about this. I might be ignorant about what you are getting at, but as I have been told the FL ID cannot engage without the bounty....
And to add as well, I thought the same as you before, lyth, that the line about friendly and allied means what you think it means. That was until I saw the sanctions that were agaisnt it and asked an admin about it. I even made a thread asking about it before.