Fulda Gate

[Thyrzul]

As far as I know the Sprague lane is scheduled for completion in the next update. According to the sidebar we are 12,5 % away from 4.90 Initial, so why don't you bring back this subject after the updates if we still don't have those lanes complete by then? Not like I'd want to defend Snak3, but I don't think that's a good or useful example you are bringing forward.

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[Commander Crucible]

Fair Enough. I guess i'll bring it up then.
Previous post edited as necessary.

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[SnakThree]

Do you realize that I am Ageira leader, on and off for a few years now, and have been in contact with story devs regarding Sprague and many more projects?

What you fail to realize is that we are not demanding anything from Bretonia in exchange for "finishing" the lanes. We made a comm to simply inform about current situation and then made a polite request. I am not sure what kind of event are you talking about.

Also, what war am I shutting of, if current GMG faction is refusing to participate in it by completely ignoring it? You are trying to put blame on me where I am the least involved for a second time now.

I can accept feedback for Fulda/Jump Gate issue but I have Big Three to push forward and that is up to Rheinland to accept or not. If you suddenly ban two partners of Ageira from shipping Parts, you can be sure there will be some friction. Or am I supposed to drop 700 years of canon partnership out of the window?

Seriously, your ignorance is causing you some grief it seems.

I know exactly who you are, no need to remind me. Drop the ego and come down a peg or two.

Answer: This was not an egoistical statement. Rather reminder that I have more knowledge what Ageira does and does not in response to your claims about me/Innovations doing nothing about Planet Sprague Lanes. I have no idea who decided to put lanes there, I have not been approached to BretGov to make something happen about it. You keep blaming and pointing at this "fiasco" while it was entirely storyline progression that neither side was interested in pursuing it seems.

Some people have informed me about your “polite” deal with the bretonian government where you tried to make an equally ridiculous deal quite similar to what’s happening with Rheinland. As I stated before, no house government in the right mind would ever submit to your ridiculous propositions.

Answer: It's not a deal. It is a request to establish our monopoly in written law, rather than written lore. It's up to BretGov to come up with response and see where this roleplay leads.

Also please stick to one stance and stop changing your excuses, you went from “corporation equality” to “ lol, we es Corp, so deal with it”.

Answer: At no point I claimed all corporations are equal. Get your facts right.

Current GMG not talking about it yet there is a whole damn event based on their faction. The wheels are already spinning and you’re hitting the brakes hard.
Regardless of what they like, this event has Happened which means they are obliged to participate. You are stopping said participation with this nonsense demand and essentially stalling plot progression so YES, I blame you.
This comes off as rather shady and most people would have already noticed this.

Answer: There's nothing stopping from Rheinland and GMG interacting right now. Current GMG faction is actively ignoring war. That's not Ageira's fault. Stop pinning fault on me/Innovations.


Your third paragraph highlights the beauty of your rather bipolar mindset.
You want Equality for your sister factions and at the same time, you claim to be the Electronic Arts of Discovery.
1) You should know the relationship between Rheinland and Liberty, You should know the Trust factor that plays here, You should know for a damn fact that they will not allow you monopoly over certain commodities and all your buddies to transport black market ammunition either.
2) So why make the deal eh? What’s your agenda? You thought you can get monopoly over all lanes in Sirius? As thyr pointed out, this is too much power for one faction and that can spill over to the Liberty Government. This is unacceptable.

Answer:
1. There's no question here, only empty statement.
2. Because Big Three's agenda is to secure the monopoly in written law, rather than written lore. Yes, it is immense power to have a say about Jump Gate and Trade Lane network. Which is why in three years it is the first time Innovations wants something in exchange for their services as we have leverage to do so. Boohoo. Deal with it.

To retort, your power mad mind is killing player action in the sigmas. Call me whatever you want, I don’t care but I do care for this mod so from one player to another, do the right thing already before someone does it for you.

Answer: If you cared about this mod, you would not go out on blind slandering and would get your facts right before going on a rampage that is completely misplaced. This is roleplay issue, not ooRP one. If you are unhappy customer of Ageira, contact us. If you are unhappy citizen of Rheinland/Kusari, contact them.

What the hell is wrong with you people, who are desperately trying to solve roleplay issues in ooRP environment? This is storyline progression, first of a kind, and so better find ways to solve this in roleplay.

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[Thyrzul]

So you've now decided that Ageira Innovations ceases all and every shipment of your Whiteboxes^TM into Rheinland until the Bundestag decides to permit - alongside Ageira - Deep Space Engineering, Universal Shipping Incorporated, and strictly nobody else carrying them legally in Rheinland. Is that final?

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[Commander Crucible]

[quote="SnakThree" pid='1963200' dateline='1516438681']

Answer: There's nothing stopping from Rheinland and GMG interacting right now. Current GMG faction is actively ignoring war. That's not Ageira's fault. Stop pinning fault on me/Innovations.

Reply #1: Yes, there is, its a corp called Ageira who refuses to fix the damn gate which means rheinland warships can't enter the Sigmas. This implies no war which further implies that interacting in game with GMG cannot happen and also inrp, we can't send warships through unstable jump holes as per your own damn warnings.
As a bonus inRP, you are throttling the economy of many other Rheinland based corps and the house's economy itself.
Also inRP, the jumphole to sigma cannot be used as it is quite literally 10K from an inRP secret base and we have been educated by
ageira to not use jumpholes either as stated earlier.



Answer: If you cared about this mod, you would not go out on blind slandering and would get your facts right before going on a rampage that is completely misplaced. This is roleplay issue, not ooRP one. If you are unhappy customer of Ageira, contact us. If you are unhappy citizen of Rheinland/Kusari, contact them.

What the hell is wrong with you people, who are desperately trying to solve roleplay issues in ooRP environment? This is storyline progression, first of a kind, and so better find ways to solve this in roleplay.

Reply #2: You really think we haven't tried to come up with alternatives for you nonsense demands with respect to the canon lore? There is no other alternative. We approached you in ooRP environment because we are all tired of waiting to put it layman terms.

Reply #3: Whatever, I give up on seeing any progress in sigma with you delaying gate repair.
You keep missing the point time and time again and then you proceed to quite literally have the audacity to say this of all things " Boohoo. Deal with it."

"At no point I claimed all corporations are equal. Get your facts right" and "2. Because Big Three's agenda is to secure the monopoly in written law, rather than written lore" and your posts on rheinland communication.

Reply #4: Good job contradicting yourself.

Conclusion: I see no way to have a constructive talk with you and you seem to be one very agitated individual so this is my last post on this thread.
My sincere request is that you stop this madness and let us players watch progression happen in this decade or millennium or whenever you plan on doing something.

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[SnakThree]

So you've now decided that Ageira Innovations ceases all and every shipment of your Whiteboxes^TM into Rheinland until the Bundestag decides to permit - alongside Ageira - Deep Space Engineering, Universal Shipping Incorporated, and strictly nobody else carrying them legally in Rheinland. Is that final?

We can't say it is final because the roleplay is ongoing.

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[Thyrzul]

So you've now decided that Ageira Innovations ceases all and every shipment of your Whiteboxes^TM into Rheinland until the Bundestag decides to permit - alongside Ageira - Deep Space Engineering, Universal Shipping Incorporated, and strictly nobody else carrying them legally in Rheinland. Is that final?

We can't say it is final because the roleplay is ongoing.

Does that imply you may change Ageira's demands towards the Bundestag?

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[SnakThree]

So you've now decided that Ageira Innovations ceases all and every shipment of your Whiteboxes^TM into Rheinland until the Bundestag decides to permit - alongside Ageira - Deep Space Engineering, Universal Shipping Incorporated, and strictly nobody else carrying them legally in Rheinland. Is that final?

We can't say it is final because the roleplay is ongoing.

Does that imply you may change Ageira's demands towards the Bundestag?

It implies that roleplay should be left up to roleplay. Dragging this into ooRP discussions takes away the charm that Discovery can offer. Perhaps some of you prefer predetermined roleplay with certain outcome, however I enjoy fluid and ever changing roleplay that depends on more factors than what ooRP-centric community demands.

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[Thyrzul]

So you've now decided that Ageira Innovations ceases all and every shipment of your Whiteboxes^TM into Rheinland until the Bundestag decides to permit - alongside Ageira - Deep Space Engineering, Universal Shipping Incorporated, and strictly nobody else carrying them legally in Rheinland. Is that final?

We can't say it is final because the roleplay is ongoing.

Does that imply you may change Ageira's demands towards the Bundestag?

It implies that roleplay should be left up to roleplay. Dragging this into ooRP discussions takes away the charm that Discovery can offer. Perhaps some of you prefer predetermined roleplay with certain outcome, however I enjoy fluid and ever changing roleplay that depends on more factors than what ooRP-centric community demands.

Is it difficult to answer with a simple yes or no?

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[SnakThree]

Yes.

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