Did a short talk to Agmen regarding my possibility of getting a Terrorist ID and the best suited IFF for it. I almost forgot that Mon'star had Fugitive IFF (I thought it was a Terrorist IFF, dunno why, and this IFF don't exist of course). The problem with Fugitive IFF is that it's hostile to everyone. That is surely not good, hehe.
I was wondering if, when having Fugitive IFF, is it possible to be friendly to certain factions? Can it be done? It doesn't seem hard to implement it although I know nothing about it. IF it can't be done, these are my suggestions, and they're not related only to my status. It should concern many indies out there.
Criminal IFF - (unlawful tag) it'd applicable on many IDs
- Pirate ID - no longer indie pirates would have to choose a faction. For the first time their independence would be displayed by his/her tag.
- freelancer/mercenary ID - Freelancer/Merc with Criminal IFF would have his alignment properly displayed. Maybe this would solve the problem of mercs/freelancers taking bribes. If they are Criminals, taking bribes would be ok by all standards. On the other hand, freelancers/mercs with Freelancer tag would be considered as good guys which are not allowed to undertake any kind of shady actions.
- vigilante ID
Wiki definition: A vigilante is someone who illegally punishes someone for perceived offenses, or participates in a group which metes out extrajudicial punishment to such a person. Often the victims are criminals in the legal sense, however a vigilante may follow a different definition of criminal than the local law.
So basically, vigilantes are not permanently defined as evil/good guys. They're simply anti-heroes, and as such they can have justified or unjustified means of getting their justice. Thus vigilante with Criminal IFF would be and evil guy and vigilante with Freelancer IFF (or with any kind of lawful tag) would be a good guy.
Furthermore, why there can't be a guy with Criminal IFF and Researcher ID who does some sick experiments on his ship? Same way of thinking can be also applied on Special operative ID and AI ID as well (evil robot who kills civilians and eat their brains thinking he'd get smarter, haha).
In all, Criminal IFF suggestion is nothing but a Fugitive IFF except that Criminal IFF would be easier to obtain (example, buy 2, 3 bribes on Barrier Gate station, just like for FL IFF) and is NOT hostile to everyone. If the same principle concerning obtaining one's tag could be applied for Fugitive IFF, then there would be no need for Criminal IFF and Fugitive IFF would not stay reserved only for hard-core, hostile-to-everyone, terrorists.
I'm talking about alignment and nothing more and I'm probably repeating myself.
- Criminal IFF (pirates, freelancer, mercs, traders, smugglers and members of evil organizations/factions/groups etc)
- Freelancer IFF is for indie good guys.
If someone asks "But what about Mandalorians who have FL IFF?". Well, I don't have an answer for that but I'm guessing we'd need a IFF for that kind of non-evil type of independent organizations as well because in its definition Freelancer is a dude who usually should work on his own and MMs don't in most cases. Maybe Civilian IFF would be appropriate? Dunno.
' Wrote:The problem with Fugitive IFF is that it's hostile to everyone.
You're wrong.
You can have it at full and flashing, and people will see it as Fugitive, even if your other reps are untouched.. >.>
Yes, everyone else will see it as red, but otherwise, it's no issue. Your reps are what your reps are, the IFF can be edited in with no change to anything else.
Criminal IFF is odd, because being a Criminal is a relative term.
Take Zoey for instance, she is a criminal in Bretonia, violent Terrorist. In Kusari she is Lawful.
Criminal is a bit broad, maybe Pirate IFF for Pirate IDs, that would be cool. Problem with the Criminal IFF idea is it needs to be an NPC Faction to have a place on the repsheet (To become an IFF).
So there would need to be some way to have Lawfuls get hostile to Criminals or a place to bribe them or whatever...
I was simply told that with Fugitive IFF you're hostile to everyone. And Criminal IFF would maybe fix that. Of course, the best way would be to make Fugitive IFF more flexible.
Yes, you're right. Criminal is too broad but same thing can be said for few other tags as well.
Edit: you buy 2, 3 Criminal bribes, you get your tag and you're automatically hostile to all houses. Don't see anything wrong with that.
Quote:I was wondering if, when having Fugitive IFF, is it possible to be friendly to certain factions? Can it be done? It doesn't seem hard to implement it although I know nothing about it. IF it can't be done, these are my suggestions (...)
So I was kinda misinformed. Even better. Thanks for the info.
Yes... having some additional IFFs for indies would surely be nice.
' Wrote:- freelancer/mercenary ID - Freelancer/Merc with Criminal IFF would have his alignment properly displayed. Maybe this would solve the problem of mercs/freelancers taking bribes. If they are Criminals, taking bribes would be ok by all standards. On the other hand, freelancers/mercs with Freelancer tag would be considered as good guys which are not allowed to undertake any kind of shady actions.
Can we pleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease stop thinking in terms of only black and white? There are shades of gray between the two. A merc, or freelancer for that matter isn't either a good guy or a bad guy. They can switch sides. It depends on their RP. Quit trying to pin us to one side or the other outright.
This isn't just you Joker and I don't think you meant to do it but what I quoted is thinking in terms of only black and white, it ignores the fact that real life, and thus RP has shades of gray.
i agree with some of what the joker is saying. its sounds like a really good idea. i really like the idea itself.
to address Zoey's character, this ID would simply not be for her, it wouldnt be appropriate. but it would be appropriate for some of the other indie characters in Sirius which is why i think it would be pretty cool.
and i definitely think cross is right as well. should this be added the term freelancer should still not indicate lawful or unlawful, just leave it 100% neutral.
and lastly, the term vigilante is really referring to someone who takes the law into his own hands. someone who kills a murderer in our society would be called a vigilante, and go to jail like everyone else. in Sirius, its a different place entirely, so the police factions would have to decide whether or not that person should be punished for his actions. its much more lawless so i dont think they would mind if a vigilante did that...but hey its not for me to decide
' Wrote:I was simply told that with Fugitive IFF you're hostile to everyone. And Criminal IFF would maybe fix that. Of course, the best way would be to make Fugitive IFF more flexible.
Yes, you're right. Criminal is too broad but same thing can be said for few other tags as well.
Edit: you buy 2, 3 Criminal bribes, you get your tag and you're automatically hostile to all houses. Don't see anything wrong with that.
Sorry but that will be abused by the people who just want to do PvP
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