' Wrote:Final note regarding this rather fruitless discussion: I haven't published Vito's oorp threat above without any reason - it should really be clear by now that none of the Omicroners is eager to keep this player issue unsolved, having an oorp war with the Corsair NPC faction, or fueling any obvious grudges, but there are approaches to this game that cannot be called role play, by no means, and thus are an excellent reason to antagonize according attempts, either those by "pretended role play" or those cast in a respectless way of uncrontrolled and unjustified anger.
It takes two.
Taking a screen out of context to prove how evil I am was a bad idea and a lame move. Guess what? You're not the only one keeping archives. You talk about OORP hate and all was I was as nice as the sair RP allowed me to and I even sent you back 30 000 000 credits !!! Please enjoy the screens, all of them, and then tell me where do you see oorp hate when I was the one being fired upon while your boys were looking for a fight only to cry minutes later. I'm sorry I'm missing the ones where your Fearless was insulting me
So tell me, Lou, where do you see my oorp hate? Everything I said both inrp and in pm's was a result of your actions, yet you are the ones coming on the forum and crying about how everybody hates you. Again! To be honest I'm getting tired of explaining the community we do not have anything against the Zoners and that I am actually trying to be nice to the Omnicroners and I get the same crap from you every single time. That is why I am done with it. From now on you can cry all you want because I am sure the community will judge us both and decide who is doing it wrong.
I'm just going to chime in for a brief moment here.
I've dealt with the Corsairs on my OSI ships, my TAZ ships, indie Zoner ships, and FP1 ships. I've not had any issues at all with any of the official/major groups, and only a few of the indies. Mostly what I transport, like others, is food, but sometimes it's scrap for the shipyard or other materials.
Also of note, regarding FP1, the Corsairs have an embassy on the station as do other groups. They don't base off of the station for piracy but do use it for a trade center for goods. In other words, we came to an agreement that works for both sides and is profitable to both either inRP or directly with credits in the game.
Yes, at FP1 we do have the occasional indie who bases off the station or pirates right in full view of the defense forces. For their violations they pay the price and we note it in our MD as well as notify the Corsair leadership of any incidents through our diplomatic channels. We do the same for the others who have consular offices on the station and so far it's worked well.
Predominantly we have a peaceful time and get the occasional pewpew with the indies that doesn't devolve into major diplomatic incidents with the official factions. It's a status quo that I can live with rather contently. We deal with the immediate issues at hand as necessary and continue on with our RP.
' Wrote:Wrong, or at least not related to the ZTC. The enforcement of NFZ Laws as they have been back then was stringent, and regardless of the violators origin. Unfortunately some Corsairs, and not only them, weren't really ready to accept the rules for processing NFZ (the old "don't do anything within 5k", "make a report", "let Zoners handle the stuff") infringements which is quite amazing since even Corsairs shared some incidents with ZTC pilots where Non-Corsair aggressors were put to their fate together, by co-operation. I'm really suprised to read this blame because especially ZTC fighters and bombers were annoyingly persistent regarding the enforcement of the NFZ around FP9, so the real reason for being discontent with the gameplay around FP9 should actually have been too much interference. That's what I've assumed at least.
Well as you observed, it was an assumption but sadly based upon inaccuracies. It was the very lack of action that was the cause of the difficulties in Theta.
' Wrote:At the time the Official Corsair Factions have endorsed the [A] also OSI vessels have been attacked, and subsequent changes like the downfall of the ZA happened some days later and weren't even role played but with some short RP indications. It happend rather oorp wise, so exactly at the time the this kind of "role play" was started it was pretty much messing around with the ZA. I don't think it can be denied.
Actually, it can be denied.
It seems to me that the above statement is aimed at stirring up old feelings which would damage the good work done between the zoners and corsairs recently (I point to the various posts here made by zoners). It is you, as the Omicroner representative (I assume?) that continue to make trouble and cause resentment.
Not all the 'Official Corsair Factions' had endorsed the [A] but infact were fired upon by the Omicroners and their allies first.
You speak of denial. It is you that is living in it....to maintain some agenda?
' Wrote:Comms ID: Freeport 9
Location: Freeport 7
IP Address: 291.3211.FP3
For the first time in the history of forever, Freeport 9 is Free no more.
The following parties have been denied to party in our backyard due to the fact that they pooped all over it.
BHG|Core
Black Sails
the Brotherhood
Benitez Family
and...
' Wrote:I did not want to include the Benitez in this list but because members of your faction actively joined in attacks against Freeport 9, I felt it would be wrong to overlook your faction simply because of my personal feelings.
He goes on....
' Wrote:Regarding the Benitez, I was there during one of the first assaults upon Freeport 9 long before any Zoner launched attacks into Gamma. I saw your pilots shooting my people while defending my Freeport. But that's beside the point. You joined to fight alongside your bretheren. I spoke to members of your faction. They told me that the Black Sails were fools but that the Benitez supported them anyway because they are your bretheren.
Really?
[12.09.2010 22:07:41] (]c[).Mattay.Frey: *FP transmission incoming* Such words, spoke by elder
[12.09.2010 22:07:47] ZDF-Nine.Three: *SEEKING*]
[12.09.2010 22:07:53] OSI-Felicia.Ruiz: You were receiving shipments daily till this nonsense
[12.09.2010 22:07:55] (]c[).Mattay.Frey: Sad ...
[12.09.2010 22:08:07] Corsair-Ronaldo.Benitez: benitez pull back, nothing we can do about this
[12.09.2010 22:08:11] [A]-Khabbazi: Yalalalal, all descend on Tomoe!
[12.09.2010 22:08:13] Corsair-Ronaldo.Benitez: orders come from the top
[12.09.2010 22:08:16] Corsair_Alfonso.Benitez: Roger that...pulling back
[12.09.2010 22:08:19] Espi;|Sails: Let's see if the shipments start anew after today.
Seems like you and Bluespawn wanted 'interesting times, despite all that you claimed. The thing is that unlike him, you still cling to it continuously spouting the same untrue propaganda.
It is quite clear that infact, not all Official Corsair Factions had endorsed the [A] or any action taken against any Zoner.
' Wrote:Zoner vs. Corsair War
Constantly trying to involve everyone else, throwing mud at all parties in the hope that some might stick.
There never was a Zoner vs.Corsair war and the more you say it, the more you prove yourself to be a teller of tall tales.
Please, at least get your facts straight before you attempt to speak from position of knowledge.
All of that aside, I think it interesting reading through this thread that there seems to be a lot of hostility aimed at one individual by yourself. How very starnge that it is that very individual that was prepared to try to sort any issues out with Moebus.
I have to ask, is this new tirade against him some new way in which you wish to derail any talks that may be happening?
More agenda making?
In an effort to sum up and answer the original question before things get too silly....
There is no war between Corsairs and Zoners, but there is a significant amount of what some might call friction between the Corsairs and the Omicroners.
Jose
PS @ Lou If you'd like a response to your rather one sided, and blinkered post where you have quoted me lots but seem to have understood little I've actually written I'll happily do it via PM.
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