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Barge Defenselessness
Offline Ipuvaepe
07-19-2012, 10:57 PM,
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' Wrote:Barges are defenseless in any situation. Especially now that their countermeasure mount has been removed.
[font=Lucidia Console]Completely necessary, a barge could cloak for its entire trade run and still have WAY more than enough cargo to justify use of a barge.

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Offline TLI-Inferno
07-21-2012, 02:37 PM,
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' Wrote:use 5k ships instead, make more trips that are worth less value, it will be faster and easier anyway

So your solution is to basically remove barges from the game? Great idea, let's make things more boring.
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Offline Duvelske
07-21-2012, 02:57 PM,
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' Wrote:So your solution is to basically remove barges from the game? Great idea, let's make things more boring.

no its just the alternative. And less problems with npc. when you see em pop when you are in a barge you can allways see some smileys flying around.

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Offline Dusty Lens
07-21-2012, 03:09 PM,
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Well, to be honest the barge could use some buff. Maybe add a forward cannon like on the LSC?
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Offline c2DDragon
07-21-2012, 03:23 PM,
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Most of people I've seen using a barge do : dock on a base, take what they want, undock and jump with friends using a cruiser or battleship with a jumpdrive. Then they dock, sell, buy, undock, jump....

I don't see the point of fighting with a barge. (Even against NPC)
I know being rammed is annoying, it is for battleships too.
But...in real life, if a huge transport is getting pirated on the sea, the crew could maybe have some guns or shotguns but...not aircraft carrier weapons, neither torpedoes.

Edit : And tankers are vulnerable even if they have tons of scrap forming the shell...

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Offline lw'nafh
07-21-2012, 03:25 PM, (This post was last modified: 07-21-2012, 03:25 PM by lw'nafh.)
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' Wrote:Most of people I've seen using a barge do : dock on a base, take what they want, undock and jump with friends using a cruiser or battleship with a jumpdrive. Then they dock, sell, buy, undock, jump....

I don't see the point of fighting with a barge. (Even against NPC)
I know being rammed is annoying, it is for battleships too.
But...in real life, if a huge transport is getting pirated on the sea, the crew could maybe have some guns or shotguns but...not aircraft carrier weapons, neither torpedoes.
Yes, but that's a few shotguns against Somali pirates compared to Freelancer, which is more like peashooters against naval warships.

All the same, barges don't need more defence. 1.7mil base hull is fine, get some escorts.

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Offline c2DDragon
07-21-2012, 03:30 PM,
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By the way, in the real life you can immobilize a tanker using a fishing net...Block the propeller and it's done.:)
C4 or any homemade explosive placed on the shell underwater and bye bye tanker.

Final words : Get an escort with jumpdrives.

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Offline TLI-Inferno
07-21-2012, 09:18 PM,
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' Wrote:By the way, in the real life you can immobilize a tanker using a fishing net...Block the propeller and it's done.:)
C4 or any homemade explosive placed on the shell underwater and bye bye tanker.

Final words : Get an escort with jumpdrives.

What about people who actually want to fly the barge for trading, and not simply powergame for profit?
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Offline Ursus
07-21-2012, 09:26 PM, (This post was last modified: 07-21-2012, 09:27 PM by Ursus.)
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' Wrote:What about people who actually want to fly the barge for trading, and not simply powergame for profit?
They're screwed... nothing will be done for transports until jump-trading is nerfed, guaranteed

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Offline Duvelske
07-22-2012, 01:17 AM,
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i think mostly the barge was a collecters item. Like the battlestar gallactica wich is in the game. it are ships who arent ment to active fly. rather then to show off or show to the croud.

Like the barge its a hell of a ship. But if you want to solo fly it you wont manage long. Is it not due to the pirates is it due to npc or other interruptions. When jumpdrives came the barge populairity went up. before that it was just a to have ship. Wich it was ment to be. like now sent a barge from a to b. or sent like 8 trains. last option is 1 much faster and 2 much more safe! And for RP its maybe fun to do once in a while a trade with a barge with some escort but otherwise its plain useless (my view sorry)

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If i want such ship i rather have a battlestar gallactica or persepone (or how to write that) because those ships are interesting. persepone is even superb looking on the sceens i saw.

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