Why must you do this to Bretonia!

[Cashew]

I think it's fair to say that the Crecy has a "broken hitbox", that being said nerfing stats isn't really needed. Even though we have the Kirk (which is a great ship) we are rather in love with our Destroyer. I would love the Obby to be buffed so we could have more intense fights between each ship. I wouldn't say that the Obby is the worse Cruiser in the mod, it can easily be fitted out to be used as a long range support vessel with Missiles (which do loooaddds of damage in a solid barrage of 3 Obbys) and mortars.

The Valor is a great ship, I would say it's pretty equal and the Gallic side had found a great strategy to winning capital fights when they have 3-4 valors. Flying in a compact group, it's really hard to win against. A Crecy is a Destroyer so it is considerably smaller than a cruiser (Obby) and so it's harder to hit. I'm not saying make it bigger because that defeats the object of classing it as a Destroyer; instead fix the hitbox, it's going to equal out the ship a lot. As an experienced Cap pilot I can safely say that there would be no other changes that would make it even more equal.

To re-iterate, buff the Obby - Make it's hull bigger and make it's core slightly larger (since it's a cruiser after all) that way both sides can be happy (:

We don't want to see our ships "crumble to the devs!" so to speak, but personally I would definitely like some better pews with the Obby.


As for the snubs, BAF| don't have any skill in snubs. The end aha. I've seen what the Templar can do in the right hands but I still believe the shield is too large for the ship. There are parts of the shield where you can shoot a considerable distance away from the ship and it still takes damage. But hey, apparently the shield sizes are going up anyway so we might get some success I don't know.

(imo)

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[Pancakes]

You can't blame the devs for the fact that most Bretonian lawful pilots are, well, bad pvpers (since that's what I inquire from your post, that you are saying). And if you mean it RP-wise, that they lose most of the fights or whatever - this has nothing to do with in-game gameplay related issues.

The dev team goal is to try and make the ships as balanced as possible, or at least one shipline when facing it against its main enemies' shipline.

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BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

[Wesker]

I think it's fair to say that the Crecy has a "broken hitbox", that being said nerfing stats isn't really needed. Even though we have the Kirk (which is a great ship) we are rather in love with our Destroyer. I would love the Obby to be buffed so we could have more intense fights between each ship. I wouldn't say that the Obby is the worse Cruiser in the mod, it can easily be fitted out to be used as a long range support vessel with Missiles (which do loooaddds of damage in a solid barrage of 3 Obbys) and mortars.

The Valor is a great ship, I would say it's pretty equal and the Gallic side had found a great strategy to winning capital fights when they have 3-4 valors. Flying in a compact group, it's really hard to win against. A Crecy is a Destroyer so it is considerably smaller than a cruiser (Obby) and so it's harder to hit. I'm not saying make it bigger because that defeats the object of classing it as a Destroyer; instead fix the hitbox, it's going to equal out the ship a lot. As an experienced Cap pilot I can safely say that there would be no other changes that would make it even more equal.

To re-iterate, buff the Obby - Make it's hull bigger and make it's core slightly larger (since it's a cruiser after all) that way both sides can be happy (:

We don't want to see our ships "crumble to the devs!" so to speak, but personally I would definitely like some better pews with the Obby.


As for the snubs, BAF| don't have any skill in snubs. The end aha. I've seen what the Templar can do in the right hands but I still believe the shield is too large for the ship. There are parts of the shield where you can shoot a considerable distance away from the ship and it still takes damage. But hey, apparently the shield sizes are going up anyway so we might get some success I don't know.

(imo)

Hitbox change I have no problem with, if that's tthe case im still getting a crecey, and I have no problem if obby gets buffed. Thanks for the feedback cashew!

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[Black Widow]

When mod edit vanilla ship sizes then mod gone to far, now crecy will have lol invisible hatchet skin.

[Haste]

The Crecy doesn't truly have a 'broken hitbox'. Just like the Sabre doesn't. Both the Crecy and the Sabre - the Crecy even more than the Sabre, I would argue - have a very "preferable" shape. Neither the Sabre nor the Crecy is truly small when it comes to overall proportions. Both however have a lot of 'empty space' near their point of mass, that makes it very possible to shoot "through" the ship.

This issue is made more problematic by the Crecy's crosshair position, which is inches away from open space (at least in the Sabre's case it's on the very fattest part of the ship, the cockpit). I'm not entirely sure how this could be fixed, as the shape doesn't really have an obvious ideal crosshair position.

I've considered giving it a shield hitbox covering the holes (although by default no capital ship has a separate shield hitbox, unlike snubs, bombers and most freighters) and then nerfing its hull armor quite a bit to compensate for that part being unusually difficult to hit.

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