Right, I'll get out and give a brief backdrop for how and why this battle would and could occur.
The Zoners freight convoy and defence Juggernaut were gathered in Omicron Delta to being shipping supplies to Sigma-17 to build a small commemoration satellite in honour of the victims of Freeport 7 and humanity's ability to survive adversity.
Now the Keepers I assume share the knowledge as a hive mind, and during the infection years aka Nomad Wars, the Zoners were in the knowledge of the Nomads, and their latest knowledge suggests/proves that the Zoners are aiding the Nomads in the Omicrons, closest to the Nomad territory.
The Keepers wish to make a strategic strike against the Zoners, so they commence an attack on the convoy in Sigma-17, hoping to cripple their 'infallible' juggernaut and merchant fleet. Also lowering the morale of the Zoner populous due to their memorial being destroyed en-route.
Now that is the backdrop, what do you guys make of this?:unsure:
Not exactly sure what would spark the nomads interest there, they will never attack unless you're pretty much Order, or carrying some of their "contraband" like nomads, artifacts and such. They would simply ignore everyone otherwise, unless you're in their system.
Why would they care about a useless piece of junk floating somewhere in space? Crippling morale? But once again - what for? How does that further their goals, assuming you actually know them (but I doubt so)? Such action would be ultimately counterproductive and effectively reveal they were behind the attack on Freeport 7, again it's not something they are looking for, in fact quite the opposite - let people continue to think it were terrorists. The more humans keep blaming each other the easier it is for them go around and archive their goals. Try to think what would they do, drop off those stereotypes and think what they would do, what would be actually beneficial to them. They aren't kind of villains you see in comics that do "evil laugh" and always fail afterward. And the Oracles aren't like Mr. Bigglesworth.
Besides Oracles are working in entirely different way - little to no direct actions. Can't see them being involved in that.
Nomads need reason ... it could be one of the mercenaries escorting with artifact or nomad in hold ... so that could attract them there ... it wouldn't be bad
' Wrote:Nomads need reason ... it could be one of the mercenaries escorting with artifact or nomad in hold ... so that could attract them there ... it wouldn't be bad
...then they would find a better time to get what they want, wait for a right moment rather than going into unnecessary publicity. Now it's just trying to make an irrelevant and false reason to bring them them here, but really they got none.
Fletcher and Co: Whilst been antagonists in the original game story the Nomads aren't here to do "evil deeds" just for the sake of it, you know. It's simply they're different and holding to no human morale or acting within it. They have own reasons, own motives and goals that make sense for them, not necessarily falling into "good/evil" generic portrayals, because ultimately they don't have the same kind of morale like you would do.
I am no expert on the Nomads, this much I do know. The reason that is puttering around in the depths of my conscious right now that the Nomads would attack the convoy is to try and slow down the supply efficiency of the Order, since from what I understand, are supplied to some extend by the Zoners.
I hypothesize that the Nomads understand our concept of logistics, they managed to do a mediocre job with the Rheinland 'battle fleet/s' back a decade or so ago in Vanilla.
The Nomads know they can't attack us outright, and as you say they need reason. They want to expel us, I thought that was reason enough, therefore weakening our logistics is a small step towards that. But a step nonetheless.
As to Zoners carrying artefacts to the memorial site as I've stated above, I can't think of a reason why.
As for the Oracles, perhaps they could be the 'forward observers' role or recon for this mission, or act as a first wave before the primary Keepers support arrives.
That is my argument for this idea, but as Treewyrm says, I am not an expert on the fluffy tentacle bunnies that are the Nomads.
' Wrote:The Nomads know they can't attack us outright, and as you say they need reason. They want to expel us, I thought that was reason enough, therefore weakening our logistics is a small step towards that. But a step nonetheless.
From what I understand to Nomads ultimate goal is more infestation then expelling humans, well that is the case if you take the nomad back story written by that one guy as cannon.
If you want an "attack the convoy" thing then why bring the memorial subject to it? The two are completely separate. I just can't find a justification why would they do that. Everything is pointing to the high probability they will do nothing about it whatsoever.
What they did in campaign was quite logical from their point of view: they were after the gate artifact, not just any but that one specifically, prompting them to act desperately for they knew the stakes and how much important it was for them. To this one you suggesting however I can't find any reasonable explanation, and morale thing doesn't cut it. The estimated resulting outcry is a high risk of archiving the opposite effect to the desired one.
We played the event with the Order a little while ago and currently are working on the next stage of that story together. But this one... nope, sorry, it doesn't sound interesting. In fact the roleplay that would come out of it I can predict will only make things worse for us, like people assembling silly alliances with an excuse of that memorial attack. Just give 'em a slightest reason to do and be sure they will do it, as that happened before, I'd be a fool to sign into that. I don't need that. We don't need that. I am sorry, but that is no go. Try something else and next time try to think how would that benefit the Nomads first and if the risks would be worth it. They're low on numbers and all that pressure is only forcing them to act more wisely, less open and more behind the scenes.