Well, no. We don't take cargo ourselves, so much. Shaburger's idea is hard to explain, I guess. Pretty much, we're not operating the IC ships, they're just ships that have been insured (Very High Level) with us. So, a RepEx trader is probably insured through us, but the IC trader is perhaps a RepEx ship insured with a higher insurance, if that makes sense?
At least that what I think he means >.>
So we don't really need our own ship.
' Wrote:And 2:
If the ID doesn't automatically Repninja GC and BD, that needs to be looked at. Though I'm guessing that might have adverse effects on KNF, etc.
Hmm, I guess we'll think about that.
Well, the part about the ships, where mostly based my own despair. I have to fly the fugly civilian train or cut myself of from 1 system to fly anything worth trading in at my wealth. And about the rep, dont know if it can be done, but im hostile towards them even before i fired the first shot, and i got my ID back before i did anything else, so i dont know why. And my rep with the lawfulls is only neutral so a bribe would make them hostile.. Sorry if parts of my post might be off topic. But, thumbs up for reviving IC as a player faction, i would be interested in joining most likely, even if we dont get pretty IC ships to fly in.
' Wrote:Sounds like a good idea to make a player faction for IC again.. I would even think of joining, even though it probably wouldnt make much difference for my own IC ship thats allready doing much of these things on its own.. 2 thing's that would totally make me swear allegiance to a player faction based on IC:
1: IC is FILTHY rich, wouldnt it make sense that we would have contracted a ship builder to make a ship thats especially ours.. Maybe only 4K cargo max, but then armored to the teeth, to protect the goods that have been insured..
And 2:
Make an ID or "repair" the existing one, so that the Hessians and GC's no longer require we make the entire houses they belong to hostile in order to dock with their bases..
Doesn't make sense to me that IC unofficially and secretly and all that, helped fund GC and Hessians, and yet, when i fly one of my favorite routes between New Tokyo and New Berlin, swarms of them are always CD'ing my ship, at least 2 times pr. system, and i then have to blow them up to ever get moving again..
And its stated either in the IC ID description or the Faction description that we can indeed lawfully dock with their bases, what ever that means, it shouldnt mean they try to blow us up..
Anyways, just some rambling, use it, dont use it, i dont care, my words are insured, so even if no one uses them, i get a full refund:)Hehe
Regarding 1:
Well, the systems a bit difficult to understand, but [IC] doesn't have any ships, and doesn't necesarily ship anything. We just 'insure' the cargo in RP. Thus this would mean a ship carrying the IC IFF/ID is actually an independent business which has had its cargo insured and its business financed (thus allowing small businesses to use 5K transports, something which Indie trader ID does not allow).
Regarding 2:
Well yeah, not much I can do about the ID there. But I still think it would make perfect sense for Red Hessians, other RRA and GC to try and pirate us or lobw us up for two reasons:
1. Technically any IC IFF/ID transport is owned by an independent business, not the IC since IC doesn't do shipping. Does if a, RRA or GC pirate/blows us up, their actually blowing up the ship of the indepndent business, not IC (even if tis carrying our ID, its just there for RP really).
2. There are only 'rumors' that IC funds RRA and the GC, there isn't any confirmation. I feel they should be allowed to pirate us from time to time because this creates the Image that IC is not cooperating with them at all, which is the kind of image IC would want, even if its not their actual diplomacy with these factions.
' Wrote:Well, no. We don't take cargo ourselves, so much. Shaburger's idea is hard to explain, I guess. Pretty much, we're not operating the IC ships, they're just ships that have been insured (Very High Level) with us. So, a RepEx trader is probably insured through us, but the IC trader is perhaps a RepEx ship insured with a higher insurance, if that makes sense?
At least that what I think he means >.>
So we don't really need our own ship.
If the ID doesn't automatically Repninja GC and BD, that needs to be looked at. Though I'm guessing that might have adverse effects on KNF, etc.
Hmm, I guess we'll think about that.
Also, the IC IFF/ID is just a sign that independent businesses have been insured, not corporations like RepEx. Thats what the Corporate Insurance Department is for:).
' Wrote:Good, finally someone brave and smart enough to take on this challenge. I've always thought about it but it would always be a secondary interest. One of the practical ideas that I've had is that the best anti-fraud measure is to get an IC Eage fly with the convoy as escort and oversight. Being reasonably good escort pilot, I coud sign up for that sometime during July or August.
To sum it up:
the insurance contract terms should be smart - i.e. no refunds for getting hit by the same pirate on the same run duriing the same day (or within a short period of time) - if the trader knows there are pirates, he has to hire more protection, report it to local authorities, or change route.
Taking the insurance to another level, paying more would get them an escort, which of course does make the money worth it as it increases the safety. (perhaps have an escort certification programme to evaluate individual pilot qualities from which the cost would be derived)
Probably the best way to go about the insurane fees would be a pay-per-run method (with signing a contract via neural net beforehand).
How to set up the numbers best is something fun to design - but I'm not an insurance agent. Perhaps later on it might be useful to open the insurance business to trusted independent traders as well, though encouraging them to join official factions via bonuses & better contract terms might be great, too.
The first point about the insurance policy being smart is a good idea, thanks for those suggestions about not being applicable if getting hit by the same pirate twice, and other situations which may suggest it was a set up.
As for the escort idea, thing is, [IC]'s an insurance company but there were not IC transports or escorts (or any NPC's at all for that matter) in vanilla, thus I assume there shouldn't be any now. Its a good suggestion though nonetheless.
As for getting insurance for independent traders, thats not gnna be happening. Technically any IC IFF'ID'ed transport would be RP'ed as an independent trader/business who's had his business financed and insured by IC, but is not an IC chartered transport. Insurance for now will only be towards big corporations like Agiera, Universal or Kishiro for example. The thing with having insurance for indie traders is that there are soo many commodities and routes that must be considered, which for one man (who hasn't had the training either) is just simply too much. Hopefully one day we might be able to add this feature on, but for now I plan on starting small scale.
Anyways I'm hoping to get our first insurance deal set up and ready to go by the end of next week or so.