Kusari needs a usable HF

[Ursus]

This post is intended as something slightly less than a bug report. Kusari needs a usable HF. The Chimaera VHF is a fine ship, but it is doesn't have HF-style handling and can't really serve the role. The next step down in the disco lineup is the Wyrm, which is the LF. The only HF in the game is the Dragon, which is a vanilla MK1 ship that is utterly useless in Discovery--max of class-5 guns, 3600 hull, come on now.

Thank you

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Discovery 24/7 Negotiating Tactics:

[Charos]

That's because Chimaera does the job of a heavy fighter and very heavy fighter.

Adding a heavy fighter to the line would be pointless.

EDIT: I mean, look at it. It's more than you can ask and I'm out of time to explain :@

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[kikatsu]

Can they use civilian HFs?
If so grab a Marauder

[Vodkthx]

That's because Chimaera does the job of a heavy fighter and very heavy fighter.

Adding a heavy fighter to the line would be pointless.

This.

But also you can see where he is coming from. There are cheap and usable HF available to many factions, and while the Chimaera may outclass any HF it comes at the high price of a VHF. Then again, the price difference is small to someone who has gathered any remotely reasonable sum of Credits.

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[Ursus]

It's not the price, it's the hole in the lineup. The chimarea is a very nice VHF, but it's not a HF. It does not have the handling of other HFs, and if it is supposed to be directly competitive with other HFs then it is massively overpowered in comparison. This is the same problem as the Wraith; wonderful VHF, not a HF.

It's alright if every house doesn't have a HF, but it makes the lineups a little tight. Even the Gallics have an HF.

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Discovery 24/7 Negotiating Tactics:

[kikatsu]

I actually recently made a thread addressing an issue similar to this, how to make Heavy Fighters stand out and be useful, check the RP General section for it, it may be of use as I try to cover some points of what I think HFs should be doing and how to implement them a bit better than they are now.

[AeternusDoleo]

Not every shipline has every slot filled. Kusari doesn't have a light battleship or carrier. Bretonia doesn't have a battlecruiser. And so on and so on.
Kusari has quite an agile VHF, which does not leave the maneuverability gap between the LF and the VHF that big. It does not NEED a HF, therefor it does not get one. If you absolutely need to have a Kusari-ish HF, take a look at the Renzu ships.

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[Ursus]

It does not NEED a HF

alright :laugh:

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Discovery 24/7 Negotiating Tactics:

[Tachyon]

Why put effort into a ship, that won't be used, cause people keep saying HFs suck.

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