' Wrote:So, out of interest, would you say your problem with the IND stems from the fact that they have no mod lore basis?
Only little part of it. Include rep-hacks, cargo limitations, their permissions to trade practically everywhere.
Incident where one IND's member roleplaying Bretonia's governor contracted whole IND to do something.
I get a feel of elite players under tag which allows them to do many stuff that isn't possible to others while RPing as one character.
' Wrote:Done as traders, on any route that takes less than 40 mins one way, you're losing profit because it takes half an hour to get to the system wall (so that's half an hour of flying to make 0 profit). Same is true for miners, getting to the system wall takes longer than most return runs, and the return runs actually yield further profit.
Fail. xD
And if you're multiboxing and using third party programs as well, you're just setting yourself up for a ban.
If they aren't wasting time to play FL on those 30 minutes or so they effectivly declines any profit over time loss. I can prove it with calculations when I get back home, that would be 20th day.
flying to the wall of the system it's pointless you lose time and profit. If you want to return from New Tokyo to Omega 7 you'r doing like 20 minutes + profit
' Wrote:If they aren't wasting time to play FL on those 30 minutes or so they effectivly declines any profit over time loss. I can prove it with calculations when I get back home, that would be 20th day.
Simply going afk and flying to the system wall doesn't actually save you time, it may save you time spent playing FL, but it still takes half an hour of real time to get there, no matter what you're doing.
Edit: Zahas has illustrated my point perfectly, it only takes 20 mins to get from New Tokyo back down to Omega 7, and you'll make 5 mil or so carrying Multiplexors and Mining Machinery, as opposed to 30 minutes flying to the system wall, and making 0 profit. Ergo it is not really abusable because it actually makes you less money. >.>
' Wrote:Simply going afk and flying to the system wall doesn't actually save you time, it may save you time spent playing FL, but it still takes half an hour of real time to get there, no matter what you're doing.
Exactly. You are loosing any profit over FL time. That's the point of abuse. Of course rule forbidding this abuse, was of system or star ramming. Yet this particular issue allows being untraceable on it.
' Wrote:Exactly. You are loosing any profit over FL time. That's the point of abuse. Of course rule forbidding this abuse, was of system or star ramming. Yet this particular issue allows being untraceable on it.
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As you're losing profit, that makes it pointless, ergo it's not really an issue because it's not giving people an unfair advantage.
Which is what I've been saying the whole time, so well done arguing with me as you've ended up simply proving my point.
Not really Snak. You only proved you came here to troll and argue a point which is moot. He made the point that while it is a suicide trade run, it isn't abusable in a way that would give a player an advantage. It puts the abuser at a disadvantage.
Its funny, you claim IC is prof because they know how to abuse in game, then whine because you feel another group is abusing stuff. Pot. Kettle. Black. Not to mention a business that puts itself at a disadvantage is anything put pro.
The point is, yes it is abusesable. Does it hurt the server? No. Does it give the abuser an advantage over other players? No. Meaning there is no point in adding a death message as that is more work for the server (even if it is minute) that results in no benefit (catching abusers abusing to give themselves and advantage.)
Yes. I am a troll since I joked on IC knowing it (it was obvious sarcasm), then expressing honest opinion on IND (first post on it was with little of sarcasm. And when I was asked I spoke my mind. ) and then argued because my argument with my calculation was right but I didn't took into account that another member had little different PoV which made our arguments contradict each other as different things were calculated.
I admit that not being silent or nonsense posting member is trolling act itself.
Also, I did expect you to call me a troll when I saw you posted in this thread.
' Wrote:Yes. I am a troll since I joked on IC knowing it (it was obvious sarcasm), then expressing honest opinion on IND (first post on it was with little of sarcasm. And when I was asked I spoke my mind. ) and then argued because my argument with my calculation was right but I didn't took into account that another member had little different PoV which made our arguments contradict each other as different things were calculated.
I admit that not being silent or nonsense posting member is trolling act itself.
Also, I did expect you to call me a troll when I saw you posted in this thread.
*laughs*
Perhaps you expect people to call you a troll because you know you are trolling and because you know that by your actions most of the community thinks very dim of you? Of course you'll claim you don't care, but you continue to post here and remain he because you truly do care. Perhaps you should clean up your act and people would take you seriously.
I said you were trolling because you started an argument over if this tactic is abuse or not. Knowing full well that it isn't abuse, you proceeded to argue it was. I'm not faulting you for it, all I said was you only proved you came here to troll. Not that you were right in your argument, because you were wrong.