The point is these smegheads enjoy cheating more than the journey, getting one over on players makes
them the big man in their eyes.
I know a man who doesnt come out very much and chooses his victims carefully, only hitting them on return
journeys for RP reasons, he's realised that some of these craft aren't returning but are only oneway traffic,
if their killing themselfs to save time, my man is wasting his time gameplay here because of the abuse of it?
A message would be nice to save confusion & time looking for these dirty snidey cheaters.
' Wrote:What seems to be the problem with self-abuse?
i do not think people get the hint of the overall suitation
it's no different then a 1 way trade route.
yes it takes time to hit the system wall but there is much more overhead then most of you are comprehending.
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-Zuke
A sane man must become insane to look sane
In an insane world.
' Wrote:i do not think people get the hint of the overall suitation
it's no different then a 1 way trade route.
yes it takes time to hit the system wall but there is much more overhead then most of you are comprehending.
Sure, it's technically a suicide trade route, but since using that trade route will easily cut your profit/time by a lot (40 minutes go get to a system wall, while it takes about 15 minutes to make one leg of an average run which also has stuff to bring back), it's not really abusable.
You can say that making a fraction of what a legitimate trader would be able to easily grind in the same time is a problem all you want, but it doesn't mean that people will take the problem seriously :/ and frankly, the server has bigger fish to fry.
' Wrote:Sure, it's technically a suicide trade route, but since using that trade route will easily cut your profit/time by a lot (40 minutes go get to a system wall, while it takes about 15 minutes to make one leg of an average run which also has stuff to bring back), it's not really abusable.
You can say that making a fraction of what a legitimate trader would be able to easily grind in the same time is a problem all you want, but it doesn't mean that people will take the problem seriously :/ and frankly, the server has bigger fish to fry.
Why its running into the system wall the time being im still mining up a cloud on another client?
did you even bother to read the damn'd thread ? Thats what is making up for the time difference a ready cloud ready to be picked up and head out agaian
DO YOU FRIGGEN COMPREHEND NOW HOW IT CAN BE ABUSED dO YOU ? REALLY I DONT THINK YOU DO JESUS EIGHT FRIGGEN CHRIST READ WHAT I HAVE SAID AND COMPREHEND
I more then make up for the lost time By abusing a multi client behind a proxy
witch mind you
CANNOT BE DETECTED BECAUSE ITS A DIFFERENT IP DURR DURR DURRRRRRRR
and a simple friggen fix is to add a death message
i am sorry that 99% of you are not capable of comprehending what a proxy is or does.
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A sane man must become insane to look sane
In an insane world.
The issue your keep blabbing about isn't abuse by running into the system wall. It is abuse by multi-boxing/clienting.
Since your skull is so thick and you can't accept that you are wrong, I'll do some leg work for you.
Hood to Detroit Munitions takes 11 mins 23s. We'll round up to 12 mins. I'll add 1 min for docking/selling/un-docking which is more than it should take. So 25 mins round trip.
Takes about 15 minutes to fill a 5k up with gold ore.
What you are suggesting is this:
1st PC: Miner ship fills a transport (2nd PC) with gold ore, 15 minutes.
2nd PC: Transport does the 12 min run from Hood to Detroit; you unload it with transport (1st PC) you have there. Takes about 1 minute, so a total of 13 minutes here.
2nd PC: Aim the transport at the system wall and send it on its way.
1st PC: Start mining and dropping ore in piles, this takes 15 minutes to build up enough for the transport.
As it takes the transport 35 minutes to hit the wall, you're waiting 20 minutes before you can send the transport back to Detroit. Let's do the math shall we?
15 to fill up + 13 minute run + 15 minutes to mine the ore + 20 minutes of waiting = 63 minutes in total
Now shall we do what is expected?
Miner fills transport with gold ore, 15 minutes.
Transport does the 12m run from Hood to Detroit, unloads and buys return cargo. 13 mins.
Transport does the 12 run back and unloads the cargo, 13 mins.
Miner fills the transport with gold ore, 15 mins.
Transport does the 12m run from Hood to Detroit, unloads and buys return cargo. 13 mins.
At this point we are at 69 minutes, just 6 minutes over what you are suggesting and we've already got the profit from two loads of ore and one load of return cargo.
Is it abuse by suiciding because you are too lazy to fly back? Sure. Does it give you an advantage? No.
I know you're going to say that the second example uses two people and it isn't a fair comparison, I don't honestly care. The example is a typical mining operation.
As you seem to not understand, in your example the problem isn't that someone is flying into the system wall. It is that they are using two machines/accounts to play the game. That is where the advantage comes in; not that they are flying into a system wall.
Guess what? We already have things in place to detect what you claim is undetectable. Adding a death message for the guy hitting the system wall isn't going to change a darn regarding your example.
I was thinking more like the 50 million run from omega 7 to kusari.
its about 30 ish minutes.
http://signavatar.com/15890_s.gif First: You've got a picture in there that's 800x286 pixels. The maximum signature size is 700x250.
Second: Your other picture in the rotation fills the full 700x250 boundaries by itself.
With an image that big, you can't fit any text below it. Please fix this.
-Zuke
A sane man must become insane to look sane
In an insane world.
' Wrote:I was thinking more like the 50 million run from omega 7 to kusari.
its about 30 ish minutes.
He won't understand. Or doesn't want to admit he understands.
If I had Excel near I could do the calculations to prove it, but I'd rather take into account that no one is multi boxing as it is another abuse, not directly related.