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Let's talk on the Nephthys
Offline Lennox
02-10-2012, 12:34 AM,
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Oh yeah. A Nephthys...

I love that ship. It doesn't lack in hull strenght nor in firepower. It's shape is okay as well.

With 7 Deaths Hand it can deal epic damage more than most of the codes around if you hit. ;D

A great, superior fighter by the Order....nothing to add.
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Offline Jeremy Hunter
02-10-2012, 12:35 AM,
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' Wrote:
Check my edit.

Was ninja'd.

And yes.

Please.

Holy Jihad War me

:smile2:
Not my job, I just provide the trollbait and seem to be the Go-To guy for anything and Everything Order.

Now I'll stop derailing, sorry McNeo:(

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Offline McNeo
02-10-2012, 12:36 AM,
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Everybody has to fight the nomads. They come to New York and just wait to be shot. In fact, the last nomad I fought was a Keeper gunboat in Texas. There are still nomad patrols in Alaska as far as I know, too.

Last I checked Kaze, ships weren't balanced for the player base that uses them, rather the other ships surrounding it. If this weren't the case, I'd assume that the Corsairs would need some Katana turning Titan with 16000 hp by now.
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Offline Kaze Dagon
02-10-2012, 12:42 AM,
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' Wrote:Not my job, I just provide the trollbait and seem to be the Go-To guy for anything and Everything Order.

Now I'll stop derailing, sorry McNeo:(

You ain't derailing.

Tbh, i think the Nephtys hits the sweet spot when regarding Order roleplay.

It's epic fighter, but it needs a good pilot behind it to keep it at par with the nomad sauce that is thrown around with.

T'is balanced, the leadership keeps a tight reign on the tech, and the admins has a keen eye over the tech.

Why bother?

Only due to indies.

~K.

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Offline Kaze Dagon
02-10-2012, 12:44 AM,
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' Wrote:Everybody has to fight the nomads. They come to New York and just wait to be shot. In fact, the last nomad I fought was a Keeper gunboat in Texas. There are still nomad patrols in Alaska as far as I know, too.

Last I checked Kaze, ships weren't balanced for the player base that uses them, rather the other ships surrounding it. If this weren't the case, I'd assume that the Corsairs would need some Katana turning Titan with 16000 hp by now.

Main lore enemy = Nomads/BHG

BHG VHF is good, Nomad VHF is epic.

Unless they change, i don't see a problem, balance wise.

~Kaze.

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Offline Korny
02-10-2012, 12:46 AM,
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' Wrote:
(yawn)


Is it op for Order. Lolno.
They need it.

Excuse me ?

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Offline Kaze Dagon
02-10-2012, 12:48 AM,
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' Wrote:Excuse me ?

Explained in my previous post.

It ain't op for Order. It's balanced against it's lore enemies.

~K.

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Offline McNeo
02-10-2012, 12:50 AM,
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Given that the nomad factions have spent an aweful lot of time shooting at lawfuls in Liberty throughout their life, I could argue that the same is true for Liberty. And quite possibly Rheinland and Kusari as well.

If we're going to go with the lore though.

Military/Police > Large paramilitary (eg BHG) > Small paramilitary (eg Order) > Large pirate (eg LR) > Small pirate (eg LH) > Civilian

That's generally how things are balanced if we look at the lore. Certainly I can't imagine a world in which pouring money into R&D (militaries) doesn't get you a comparable weapon than strapping some bits together and pushing some electricity through it (xenos/other poor pirate factions).

The current balance system puts everything on a level playing field. If we are going to balance according to the lore instead, you might as well go all the way with it. Balancing according to the lore in some places, and equality in others, leads to situations in which some ships are much more powerful than others. And yes, I've always opposed nomad ships being that good.
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Offline Korny
02-10-2012, 12:52 AM,
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' Wrote:
Explained in my previous post.

It ain't op for Order. It's balanced against it's lore enemies.

~K.

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Offline Kaze Dagon
02-10-2012, 12:53 AM,
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' Wrote:Given that the nomad factions have spent an aweful lot of time shooting at lawfuls in Liberty throughout their life, I could argue that the same is true for Liberty. And quite possibly Rheinland and Kusari as well.

If we're going to go with the lore though.

Military/Police > Large paramilitary (eg BHG) > Small paramilitary (eg Order) > Large pirate (eg LR) > Small pirate (eg LH) > Civilian

That's generally how things are balanced if we look at the lore. Certainly I can't imagine a world in which pouring money into R&D (militaries) doesn't get you a comparable weapon than strapping some bits together and pushing some electricity through it (xenos/other poor pirate factions).

The current balance system puts everything on a level playing field. If we are going to balance according to the lore instead, you might as well go all the way with it. Balancing according to the lore in some places, and equality in others, leads to situations in which some ships are much more powerful than others. And yes, I've always opposed nomad ships being that good.

Ingame =/ Lore

(yawn)

Ships are balanced against lore enemies.

Nephtys hits that spot decently.

The Guardian vs the Wrath doesn't though.

But that's another story.

~K.

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