Nomad Torpedo are equivalent of Mini Razor, and stats are lower than Mini Razor. Look at Nomad Disruptor blast range before even going to compare it to Train Disruptor. So have your facts straight. Apples and oranges.
' Wrote:aye aye aya ladies and gentlemen they kicked RoS butt's to do you see us complaining no........... stop whining like little sissy girls instead of shouting for mummy everytime you get beaten in your precious viper. and chopper............. dont give the whole BETTER EQUIPMENT Crap because seriously you boys have the worste damned VHF in the game minouverable, mucked up hit box. and good enough armour to boot and a completely non fl ship so dont moan
Hey, matey, did you actually read what i'v written?
I didn't moan, i asked them to edit their post.
I did moan when Exile pulled my tongue to post the ship/weps stats.
And that was less moaning, and more giving a reason why i simply asked them to be more precise.
Viper uses a Wrath hitbox. While it has less armor, and is less agile then Wrath. And has less energy.
Your argument is not valid.
Lucendez Wrote:
It is every Corsair's responsibility to die a beautiful death in defense of Crete, regardless of how OORP or how capwhoring the opposition is. Launch your fighter, joust the battlecruisers and die a beautiful death. Then, drink it down in the bar.
Oi, this thread aint about the stats of the BSG weaponry/ships, allright:dry:
But, just you compare the BSG viper to any other VHF. Allright? The thing is allmost impossible to hit, agile, and a better armoury then most VHF's. In other words, you've got one of the best VHF's. And if you dont know how to fly it, well, not our fault is it? So before you start whining about how over powerd other people's toys are, just chek out your own first.
i just think its funny that you think its the skill thats winning your fights do you seriously THINK. 6 ships including a gb a bs and fighter would not hit a viper much even if it WAS dodging like crazy thats crazy jive talking turkey material right there
' Wrote:So, now this thread is all about the BSG not wanting to fight against 2 opponents at the same time? Thats rather sad. Maybe you didnt notice that, the Keepers allso shot the Outcast. Just not as much since there were only 2-3 of them left when we arrived. What we did see how ever, was a BSG wing of nearly 5-6 attacking the Outcast. Hell, you even had 2 caps on your side. A merc Bretonian GB and a Corsair -Cruiser-. I'm sorry, but if you cant win then, hey, aint our fault.
Allso, we MAY have the best equipment in the game, but that stuff doesnt come cheap. The price you have to pay for it is -PERFECT- Role play. And if you think that perfect role play shouldnt be "rewarded", well then, why would the new people bother RP'ing?
PS: @ Chopper : Oh, so now everything is about BSG and their equipment is it? There are others in this game as well, oh doh !:crazy:
Exile, maybe you are good with words.
But, may i remind you, that you shouldn't make fun of anyone while arguing?
What did I say so harsh to get you upset?
Yes, you shot one Outcast down. And when the last =BSG= fled, did you continue attacking them? Nah, mass suicide. Very perfect RP.
We didn't cooperate with any Mercs or Corsairs. The only Corsairs we do cooperate are TBH and Benitez.
Others are not our concern, and are neutral to us. They weren't grouped with us either.
As for this :
Quote:PS: @ Chopper : Oh, so now everything is about BSG and their equipment is it? There are others in this game as well, oh doh !
No, actually, BSG don't use Vampires. Give me an example.
1 class 9 weapon that is better then Nomad Laser 1.
Please?
Then, as Treewyrm said it to me, get your facts straight.
Also, what got me upset, was your attacking of our piloting skills.
What was that? Did we ever say that we'r better pilots then you are?
Can you prove it maybe?
Actually, i have to say that Taurvi.SC (whoever it was) was flying that Cruiser like it is a BH gunship.
Beautiful. Very nice piloting.
But did i say : "Hey ya nabz, we pwned ya'r asses, because we'r mighty pwnzors from heaven"?
No, and i never will. Keep your standards, keep your facts, i don't give a damn.
You'r going to accuse me for flaming here, and flaming is what you have done.
What i'm doing is self-defense.
Treewyrm - Nice job for staying calm.
Exile - Shame on you.
Edit :
@Lohingren - Yes, it was skill. Because, we only had 2 vipers. And they didn't even attack your Capital ships.
We killed you with bombers. And that's skill. Live with it.
Edit2 :
@Treewyrm - If it is equivalent of M-Razor, it shouldn't have blast damage. And shouldn't have tracking abilities.
I'v got my facts straight.
Lucendez Wrote:
It is every Corsair's responsibility to die a beautiful death in defense of Crete, regardless of how OORP or how capwhoring the opposition is. Launch your fighter, joust the battlecruisers and die a beautiful death. Then, drink it down in the bar.
Chopper, Taurvi.SC (me) is a gunboat, not a cruiser.
If you really want to make comparison - make full research on every single ship out there, not just Keepers but all ships, all weapons and more. You'll find very interesting things in there, but it'll take a while to compile all the data. Finally it will always be raw data, theory is one thing, practice is another. So far you have made major mistakes in yours, it's one-sided and compares less than a half of stats discarding most. How is that a valid and authentic research? Where there are pros there are cons too.
Quote:@Treewyrm - If it is equivalent of M-Razor, it shouldn't have blast damage. And shouldn't have tracking abilities.
I'v got my facts straight.
Wrong again. It doesn't have tracking abilities, it doesn't have blast radius. It's a Mini-Razor with nomad torpedo graphics, explosion visuals and stats lower than MR. Have your tests done before jumping with false conclusions.
The reason i go mad when people are hitting on a faction, is because i can NOT stand bloody flaming. I know how it feels and i must say, it aint pleasant. Thats why i hit on anyone flaming annother, just so that they feel how it is.
Your first point, no, they werent grouped with you. But need i remind you of the words " We do not mean to harm anyone, we are just here to kill the Keepers." In other words, "Oi! We's helpin jah out!"
Second point. No, you never stated that your better pilots then we are. It was an example.
Now, about the Vampires. Where did i ask you to go and compare the stats on the Vampires?
And now the last bit i shall post here, some people claim that i have this little "vendetta" going on between me and the BSG, false rumors. But everytime a faction gets flamed for what they have or, what they are, i go crazy, completely.
Shame on me? Yes. But shame on you for not being able to accept the fact that not everyone can have equal toys. If you want to have the big guns, go RP.
If you wanna talk about 99%, then that's exactly the average ratio of balancing this great mod has. Now I don't even want to waste my precious time entering the "ZoI" argument, but as to the weapons, are you really reading well, chopper? As most said, the Viper is actually better than all nomad fighter ships. The Nomad Fighter (new LF) has some good armor but it's weapons are not that good and it's relatively easy to hit because of it's wide hitbox from sides, and even from the front it eats homing weapons like hell. The Nomad Assasin does indeed have 7 hardpoints, but 4 of them are class 9 and the other 3 are class 10, which means it's a heavier, lesser-armed counterpart of the Raven's Claw with more armor but reduced maneuvers; what are you whining about?
As for the Keeper's alleged "uber" equipment, check again. The Mini-Razor uses less energy and deals more damage than its Nomad counterpart, the Nomad Torpedo. The "Lesser" Nomad Lasers are class 9 versions of exclusive Nomad weapons, and type I or type II only indicates their fire rate, like the difference between an "universal" Nomad Energy Blaster or Nomad Energy Cannon. The Lesser NLaser type I, for example, deals 475 damage at 4.00 rate with 700 speed, which means anything you said about the Krakens being worse is bullcrap. It's even less powerful than the Reavers or Salamancas for crying out loud. And if you want to talk about the Nomad Laser Types I, II and III, they also are balanced variants of the same damage at different refire rates, the NL Type III acting as a slightly faster ONYX (2.00 rate) with a high drain but obviously not as powerful as most codes, the Onyx being one of the weakest. The Types I and II are 4.00 and 3.03 fire rate, respectively, and are a bit more powerful than human-mountable NECs or NEBs but still do not match middle class codes in terms of damage and drain. To add a bit more, the Assasin as I said earlier has 4x class 9 HP's and 3x class 10's, so those Keepers can't quite match the firepower of a well-armed 6/0 fighter, now, can they?
Please, do not comment unless you are well-informed as most of us are, and if you want to whine and embarass the name of BSG I suggest you don't do it over a public forum, or you might get really flamed or kicked out in the worst case.
Sky
"It is a cold universe until you know God as your Father, and then it becomes a home. Even the next life simply becomes the Father's house, home."
—David Pawson
' Wrote:If the Keepers had such "Uber weapons", wouldnt they just kill you in one shot? And what did they do today? They put up a bloody good fight. Even with those "uber weapons", you got a few kills. You all died in the end, yes. But thats because the Keepers are better pilots.
Do me a favor would you? Chek the stats on those "uber weapons", and then compare them to any class 9 weapon. If you see anything to bitch about then, by all means, let us know!
Your -i do not like it when people get flamed- friendly next door elf.
Exile.
*cough*bull*cough******cough*
They didn't kill us BECAUSE we are decent pilots. And no, we didn't all die in the end...far from it...Most of us retreated cos of the lag that was unbearable. With all your "boasting" about great skills and great experience, you failed to achieve much in that fight...=BSG= lost only two bombers. I'd say we did good. Can you honestly say the same for yourselves?
Laser = 590dmg with 700m/s speed and 4.0 refire? Kinda beats Kraken which are THE BEST fighter guns for rest of "low lives" (no solaris weren't the best, no CODES ever were...100m/s more in projectile speed, and 4.0 refire MEANS a lot in dogfight)
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I didn't start with accusing you people for having those weapons.
I don't know if you actually did read my post back there?
It was a reason why you should be more careful, then other factions.
Get it now? Because, if you have the best stuff, and you go to fight out of your ZOI, people will think of you as PVP whores.
I wasn't saying : "Heya folks, drop those gunz, get some vengeances mk1 and let's have a fight, aye".
Quote:Shame on me? Yes. But shame on you for not being able to accept the fact that not everyone can have equal toys.
This is what i'm saying.
I didn't say i can't accept it, i just said that you have to be more strict with your behaviour and your boundaries, then any other faction.
And i still think i'm right about that one.
About you asking an example and comparison, here it is.
Quote:Do me a favor would you? Chek the stats on those "uber weapons", and then compare them to any class 9 weapon. If you see anything to bitch about then, by all means, let us know!
It says any, and i chose to compare them with Vampires.
I don't know about your and former =BSG= relationship, i am not informed, i came a bit too late.
I don't know anything about "Vendetta" rumors as well.
So, don't get me wrong, but you found a wrong person to tell that.
Especially now when there are 2 wings of the old =BSG=.
I hope you understood my points now, because, it was most certainly not flaming because you have better stuff.
I don't care.
Blood Dragons have better stuff then we do, but i will not be a Bloody Dragon because of that.
@Treewyrm - My apologize then, for the Torpedo thing. I thought it had a blast.
Is it balistic or energy weapon? I mean, does it gain +200 speed from thrusting?
Edit :
@Skyelius - It does 590/295, Laser type 1. Not 470. It's not important, but if you want it correct.
Lucendez Wrote:
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