Holy bejesus

[Trogdor]

I have an Interspace Commerce ID and IFF'd Bison transport. I am not hostile to any Liberty Lawful factions.

I was recently idling in space in front of Newark Station in New York, doing something else on the laptop I have set up next to my pc. I had nothing in my cargo hold. Not moving, not shooting. Just sitting there, for about fifteen minutes, occasionally glancing over to make sure nothing interesting was going on.

All of a sudden, everything goes red: The stations around me, the tradelanes, and the capital ship patrols that were floating around. I barely managed to escape the serious pounding that was suddenly coming down on my head from two battleships, two gunboats, two cruisers, some fighters, the station batteries, and I think some people were throwing rocks, too.


W to the T to the F?

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[Zukeenee]

What's your rep with all of the corporations from the other houses? Or the BHG? Or anything else that could possibly be considered lawful, and has NPCs in New York?

If you were hostile to, say, a passing Samura NPC convoy, then those ships would've turned the Police, the Navy, and everyone else against you.

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[farmerman]

I had that happen with some BHG in a strange way the one time. For most times, it never flipped red, but it seemed my rep with some particular faction was just right to get them to go hostile with me. Maybe it was some kind of weird combination like that?

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Faction info links: Samura Heavy Industries : LWB : Watchers

[Marburg]

Yeah, it's a rep thing. When you are in an area where you are around NPC's that are repped up to the lower edge of neutral & then a hostile repped NPC pops up, if those lower-neut NPC's are allied w/ the hostile one, they will all turn on you like expired milk

fix it by upping your neutral-red reps to neutral green in the problem areas & poof! problem solved

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[Trogdor]

What's your rep with all of the corporations from the other houses? Or the BHG? Or anything else that could possibly be considered lawful, and has NPCs in New York?

If you were hostile to, say, a passing Samura NPC convoy, then those ships would've turned the Police, the Navy, and everyone else against you.

That must have been it. I started the character as a GMG gas miner, then turned him into an IC transport pilot. I used droprep a bunch of times to make IC my IFF, I figured that would have taken care of it, but Samura still hates me.

That's obnoxious, though. Samura isn't a Liberty Corporation! And when I flew through Kusari space and wandered past a Samura base or patrol, the KNF didn't go hostile on me.

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[Josey]

:mellow:You still struggling to get that kitchen zinc out of your motivator? It'€™s funny that everyone started hating you all at once. Can one faction turn all the locals against one?

Maybe you were bumping something and did not realize (big ship you know)?

[Trogdor]

Nah. There wasn't anything near me except Newark Station behind me. And like I said I wasn't even moving so whatever was trying to get past me would have only bumped me once, that shouldn't be enough to turn them hostile.

I guess that even though we figured out what the problem was, it doesn't seem like any corporation, especially an out-of-house corporation, should be able to turn the police and navy hostile. I'm actually green with the LPI and LN, but that didn't seem to matter.

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[AeternusDoleo]

While reps will be sorted in 4.86 U4, this won't be. The simple matter is, that the LN must assist Samura since it must respond to piracy on non-allied transports. Therefor the direct reputations between NPC factions Navy and Samura have to be friendly.

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[Trogdor]

So I have to wonder, why is the Kusari Navy able to ignore Samura piracy? As I passed by a Samura base while I was still a GMG ship, the base and the nearby samura npcs went hostile to me. But from what I remember, the KNF-owned tradelane did not. So I have to assume that KNF npcs and bases would not, as well. This stands in contrast to the situation in liberty, where everything, tradelanes included, went hostile.

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[farmerman]

Usually it has to do with the relative levels of how friendly you are with the various factions. If you were friendly enough with the KNF, they wouldn't flip at all.

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Faction info links: Samura Heavy Industries : LWB : Watchers