hello all ive had to re work my faction to have only 2 Ids (1 faction and 1 generic) we use zoner ID as main and indie miner as second for mining wing,
but those are not an issue , our faction the S.E.F uses AI ships for several exploration missions , after advice received from admin hoodlum we removed the AI ids those ships were using and plunked zoner ones in there place. well now we have another issue our AI explorers have only 10% power left, this kinda does not make any sense since the AI ID/ships are sold on ZONER planet. it kinda treating the Zoner /ID ids as enemies
i find it a bit odd we've got open basic equips on our AI cruisers/drones, a zoner id and we got only 10% powerplant would it be more logical if the tech nerf treated them as allies instead sinc ethe ships and id are sold on a zoner planet?
any advice/oppinions on this matter?
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Wrong. Planet Gammu is NOT Zoner planet. No human ever live there because of radiation that kills humans and other life forms. It is settled with AIs that are separate faction from Zoners. but their RP something close to Zoner. but this is Zoner planet by mistake and it ruing my RP as AI. people just land on it even when I sayed not to do it cause ''its Zoner planet, you toaster''
I posted some things about changing AI staff but AD sayed that he will not change anything because of no official faction playes for AIs.
Also I sugjest you reconsider your RP. Zoners have plenty ships for space recearching, and some civilian craft.
AI ships/tech are too hard for people to understand and use. so inRP you would never been able to use that guns. And AI ships dont have system to be controlled by human on boart, because entire ship is one AI with many subprogramms that runs energy,shields,guns, engines... so no Zoner been able to use them. Not talking about AIs are never selling their tech to humans
And for the all good things in universe- people dont abuse with AI staff. AI Drone are damn good ship and I dont like to see people using it in PvP when they not supposed to use them (like AI Drone attacked my Sair in Omega 3 when his ID not allows him, planty people using AI ID like its Police character). you want to RP as AI? You dont need AI ID. you may RP as robot even with Zoner, Navy or Kishiro ID. this ID not sayes that you not a robot, but AI ID means you are part of AI Core servants that settled on Gammu and serving ONLY to AI Core, not to Zoners or Bounty Hunters. AI from Gammu - separate faction that neutral almost to all (you may use other RP like me though, but dont broke AI ID rules and common sense)
' Wrote:Wrong. Planet Gammu is NOT Zoner planet. No human ever live there because of radiation that kills humans and other life forms. It is settled with AIs that are separate faction from Zoners. but their RP something close to Zoner. but this is Zoner planet by mistake and it ruing my RP as AI. people just land on it even when I sayed not to do it cause ''its Zoner planet, you toaster''
I posted some things about changing AI staff but AD sayed that he will not change anything because of no official faction playes for AIs.
Also I sugjest you reconsider your RP. Zoners have plenty ships for space recearching, and some civilian craft.
AI ships/tech are too hard for people to understand and use. so inRP you would never been able to use that guns. And AI ships dont have system to be controlled by human on boart, because entire ship is one AI with many subprogramms that runs energy,shields,guns, engines... so no Zoner been able to use them. Not talking about AIs are never selling their tech to humans
And for the all good things in universe- people dont abuse with AI staff. AI Drone are damn good ship and I dont like to see people using it in PvP when they not supposed to use them (like AI Drone attacked my Sair in Omega 3 when his ID not allows him, planty people using AI ID like its Police character). you want to RP as AI? You dont need AI ID. you may RP as robot even with Zoner, Navy or Kishiro ID. this ID not sayes that you not a robot, but AI ID means you are part of AI Core servants that settled on Gammu and serving ONLY to AI Core, not to Zoners or Bounty Hunters. AI from Gammu - separate faction that neutral almost to all (you may use other RP like me though, but dont broke AI ID rules and common sense)
I see rage here, but let me add some spice here to make the dish more consumable
AFAIK Gammu WAS Zoner planet till they left it due to massive radiation, I said zoner since they the only human inhabitant in omicron who interested in exploring omicron and colonised it. So zoner built Gammu's infrastructure and they own it. Beside that AI aren't human at all, by the law they have no rights to claim something belong to them, you dont want your toaster claim your house dont you ?
There is nothing wrong for AI to work for other parties, with proper background RP of course and in AI infocard there are nothing mentioned about you have to connected to whatever AI Core in Gammu if they do exist.
Yes, you can't buy AI parts or equipment inRP, you can either salvage it or steal it and then you can always reprogram it or do whatever you want to do according to your RP as long as it doesnt break any rules.
' Wrote:I see rage here, but let me add some spice here to make the dish more consumable
AFAIK Gammu WAS Zoner planet till they left it due to massive radiation, I said zoner since they the only human inhabitant in omicron who interested in exploring omicron and colonised it. So zoner built Gammu's infrastructure and they own it. Beside that AI aren't human at all, by the law they have no rights to claim something belong to them, you dont want your toaster claim your house dont you ?
There is nothing wrong for AI to work for other parties, with proper background RP of course and in AI infocard there are nothing mentioned about you have to connected to whatever AI Core in Gammu if they do exist.
Yes, you can't buy AI parts or equipment inRP, you can either salvage it or steal it and then you can always reprogram it or do whatever you want to do according to your RP as long as it doesnt break any rules.
well the concept of our "Rescued/salvaged" Ai Vessels is that The SEF rescued them from a rather nasty situation, which then the AI vessels reprogrammed themselves to serve the SEF in return for our help
and after advised by Hoodlum to RP them as zoner AI "which they they practically are"
and since we "Once " had 3 IDs we got it down to 2 (zoner for our main well zoner ships and inde miner for our resource extraction wing)
about having 1 id for unofficial factions tbh thats the first ive ever heard fo that and when i explianed my situation to hoodlum he never told me we could only have 1 ID :unsure:
i would hate to have to kinda redo countless millions of credits , not to mention the time involved/ work we have putting the AI fleet and mining wings together
believe me when we say it We SEF dont want to break any rules setting all this up , we just want it to work
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Okay seems I was abit flamer:Dbut I always do when people abuse with AIs:D
now let it be serious. SEF. if Admin sayed you should have 1 ID per faction so you must have 1 ID. so that means you can use AI ID. so you cant use AI tech as well. AI tech was made red to all to prevent people stealing OP Drone for other IDs. maybe Gammu was settled by Zoners, but now AIs there are self-sufficent to live on their own. you may establish contacts with them, but you can simply overtake them. again: AI tech are too complicated for humans. so I doubt Zoners could reprogramm them.
also: Zoners have many ships already, I dont understand why you need AIs at all. Zoners have Dread, GB, VHF, Transport, 2 Cruisers and one BS (if I remember it all correct). you can use Corvo for recon missions and Civilian Miner ship as well as BW and maybe Order ships. so again: You dont even need AI ships.
and well... I dont think that Zoners are miners as well...
' Wrote:Okay seems I was abit flamer:Dbut I always do when people abuse with AIs:D
now let it be serious. SEF. if Admin sayed you should have 1 ID per faction so you must have 1 ID. so that means you can use AI ID. so you cant use AI tech as well. AI tech was made red to all to prevent people stealing OP Drone for other IDs. maybe Gammu was settled by Zoners, but now AIs there are self-sufficent to live on their own. you may establish contacts with them, but you can simply overtake them. again: AI tech are too complicated for humans. so I doubt Zoners could reprogramm them.
also: Zoners have many ships already, I dont understand why you need AIs at all. Zoners have Dread, GB, VHF, Transport, 2 Cruisers and one BS (if I remember it all correct). you can use Corvo for recon missions and Civilian Miner ship as well as BW and maybe Order ships. so again: You dont even need AI ships.
and well... I dont think that Zoners are miners as well...
feedback appreciated: we have decided to convert our AI fleet into more zoner ships
about our mining wing: most zoners dont mine , we sef are self sufficent however
well admin didnt say we should have only 1 id ill post the screen of the convo me and hoodlum
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i seen in these screen shot i was asking admin hoodlum on advice on getting our ids from 3 to 2 "which 3 was far to many"
im updating our faction thread as we speak
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