After plenty encounters between IC and EFL. We have received nothing but negative PMs from your members. I have plenty screenshots for the acting leader over the past few weeks. Gallia and Liberty are at War. Don't expect us to simply watch you through Tau-31/23 without being attacked/pirated. Really. Your flying through a hotspot and your not even hostile to the GRN/GRP. An occasional encounter doesn't always need to involve ranting.
First to say, we're quite a "newcomer-friendly" faction if you want so. And I'm sorry, about any negative PM's, although I seem to have missed it. If you want, you can provide Vulkard those screenshots, so we can sort that out.
Unfortunately, the only encounter I had with you was negative aswell. Where I lost a 5k cargo full of gold ore, although I intented to have a talk with you or pay your fine, instead of getting blown up. Sure, when you're flying in a convoy, and one of the ships get shoot at, you can't sort this mess out anymore. It was to blame the IC escort who started shooting, whereby my compliance to stop went down in the fire.
Sure, that story doesn't belong here, and I'm .not trying to accuse anyone. I'm just using this as example to explain the situation:
You can imagine, that our members aren't being keen to loose a ~20 millions worth cargo (gold ore/helium-3). Which makes them being paranoid when entering the Taus. Furthermore, I've often heard complaints about you, logging in, just when an IC tagged vessel is near/in Tau-31. Sure, that's a corollary. You're seeking for RP encounters. But I hope you can understand, that you're being a bit nervous when carrying expensive goods. Especially newcomers are. And in this case, they prefer to safe their cargo instead of having some good RP. For IC indies, it'd be excusable. And that's were I agree with you. We should focus more on the RP, not on the profit. But then again, would you let a 25 millions worth Stork go, just for having a nice talk? Most of us doubt it, otherwise they wouldn't complain. Yes, we're a sirian corp, and it's your job to slow our trading down. And we're aware of that. Everyone knows, that you're not on the winning side in your Stork against Bombers. The only thing I can offer is, that we're doing convoys with less valuable cargo through the Taus. Even though I highly doubt, that it wouldn't lead to anything else but exchanging fire.
Due to recent events, where I've got "removed" from the faction (Thread link.), after a one year membership in IC, I thought, that I'd be suitable to give some feedback.
Interspace Commerce really had its successes and its problems during the last year. Several leadership changes and drastic member exchanges. In spite of everything, I've remained loyal. No matter if it was under Avalanche's, Snake's, Charos', Raoie's, Miranda's or Vulkards lead. (Yes, we had six different leaders in just one year.) The faction has suffered a lot under those leadership changes, if you'd ask me. (Complete deletion of the IC forums, messed up reputation with other houses (as for example with Rheinland), loss of great members, etc.).
But time and again, people put their freetime and a lot of effort into this faction, to cure its business and roleplay. Repeated times. But the enthusiasm only survived for short periods. Whereupon people left again, together with their leaders. Without being proud of it, I can say, that I've been one of the few, who stayed, giving IC multiple chances. Apart from short breaks, I've been active for the whole time, spending several hundreds hours of time on my IC ships.
As the reward for my endeavors, I get "removed" of the faction, because of an unfounded suspicion without any proofs. And on top of that, I get pilloried in the public forums, without having any idea of what is going on. Not even a single word on skype. From one moment to the other I'm "removed". Is that fairness? Is that, how to treat factions members?
I've expected far more from your so-called "Board of Directors".
I'll stop here, since this concerns only the two of us. And the forums aren't the place to discuss personal dislikes. Also, I don't want to blame anyone, who didn't pulled the trigger. Neverthelesss, an excuse for those false accusations wouldn't have been asked too much. The reason, why I'm including all this in my feedback post, is because I wasn't given the chance to speak to the whole faction. I hope this is not seen as "counter-trial".
One last thing, which hopefully can be seen as constructive criticism; In the current rollcall (Thread link.), it says:
(10-01-2012, 08:00 AM)Interspace Wrote: If a Board member ask you to participate in a fight or base upgrade and you don't and your on... you will be demoted in rank and if you dont have any rank.. fined or possibly released from service.
WE ARE A CORPERATION TO MAKE MONEY NOT BABY SIT.
As my last words as IC members, I'd like to correct the last quoted phrase (the one in LARGE LETTERS... ), and say it my own words:
We're a gaming faction, which roleplays a corporation, to have fun and not to imitate real business life.
And about the prior motivating words; Please, pretty please don't treat your remaining members like you did treaten me. Be fair, and take care of the faction's reputation. Because my patience and goodwill ran out. Don't expect me to return. Not until there'll be some major changes.
In the end, I'd like to thank the ones, I've been playing with. It wasn't always that easy to survive in such hated faction, but I've always been proud of being an IC member, and I've tried to put as much time and effort into it. Voluntarily! And that's the most important part.
That's pretty much all I've got to say (here). I'm honestly looking forward to see IC having better days in the future. But as said already; unfortunately without me.
I apologize On Behalf of Both Me and the Board I Hope you can forgive us We have Kicked you on Quick judgement and we will try our best Not to do that to any one who joins Interspace again. After your removal we in the Board have Reformed in hopes of making all removals fair and after review and numerous outside testimonies. We have seen the Error we made. I have had no reason Not to trust you but my judgement was clouded by stress and fear. As im sure any leader Both historically or even in modern times had done made a rash decision out of fear even with minimal evidence. I hope you can understand and forgive this unspeakable act of betrayal we have done against your trust. In the end at the end of the day all i can really say is...
Im Sorry
On Behalf of all of Interspace Commerce,
Vulkhard Muller
On behalf of the IC Board..
I wish to extend our heartfound appologies to you -Narcotic
I decission was made that may not have had all the facts.
your posting that you knew the secret and the video you attached was not in your favor.
however we have reviewed the evidence agian and cleared you of all wrong doing. and have the IC Board appology from all members.
I'll accept it as such, but I'm afraid to say, that talking about forgiveness isn't anymore. You could have contacted me about your doubts in so many ways. But instead of using Skype or PM's, you've choosen an inexcusable way. Kicking someone out of a faction, without any personal notice, but putting on trial in the forums instead, really wasn't a smart decision. And from what I've heard just hours ago, you still didn't seemed to be convinced, that you were wrong. And speaking of "minimal evidences" - were there actually any? If yes, I'd be still interested to see them, since I haven't seen any yet.
And by that, I haven't understood anything, too. But I'm okay with it. I don't even want to know anything more about this [insert negative substantive]. This is just a game. And the good thing about games is, that you can quit it anytime, or find some other places/people to play at/with.
Don't take your job as leader that serious. It'll get you down someday, trust me.
(10-26-2012, 09:43 PM)Hone Wrote: Sorry to BMM Micheal golanski and the IC escort I DCd on last night with CptHone, power cut. PM me if you wanna resume.
User was banned for: Griefing others
Time left: (Permanent)
met only one ic player during my time length on the server
he was making jokes near manhatan and it made my day good because i could tell them at work
keep it up
Ok, so far I haven`t had any interaction with you guys, apart from one little encounter on my 141 fighter char in Sigma-19 for only one minute.
But right now I saw something on Comm channel that let me raise my eyebrows at least.
I am referring to your transmission to the Order High Command which I as independent 141| leader am part of and therefore can inRP read the message as well. (Ask Rodent or Omicron from Order| for confirmation if needed) LINK
Two question I have there for you:
1. Why are you interested in edge worlds as a house space company? Any form of terraforming project would better suit to planetform, but even for them it is too far away. My opinion
2. Why did you not try to contact the Bounty Hunters Guild Core for it?
When I look into your faction information you keep a friendly stance towards BHG and a hostile attitude towards the Order. (LINK)
-Basically, the IC board just wanted the system, that's how it all started. Rich people get what they want, and IC is filthy rich. Other than that, well, it'll take up a lot of money and stuff, but the pay offs would be that the system could be made to be somewhat of a "safe" trade hub in the omicrons, there's only once entrance and one exit, much easier to defend, and the fact that IC has access to jump technology makes everything possible, because they could simply jump in the resources from house space, and they have access to pretty much everywhere.
Plus, it's Lost, if IC can colonize the place, they'll be making the rules, and a system like Lost is perfect for research corporations to conduct experiments, and they'd probably be paying quite a bit to do whatever they want. Think of it like..Planet Noveria (I think that was the name) in the Mass Effect universe. But yeah, with jump technology and money, nothing is too far or impossible.
-Well for one, that thing is outdated..should be fixed but laziness, so meh. IC is "friendly" with BHG due to BHG's lore, they work for legal companies. But the Bounty Hunters Guild is -not- the Bounty Hunters Guild Core. They are two completely different groups with different agendas, they just share the same money (basically BHGC uses BHG's money).
The Order is also more..friendly, and their objectives are humanitarian, while the BHG Core is more "selfish" and their public reasons to attack the order is because the order is a terrorist group according to the houses. But it's not hard to obtain knowledge that the public doesn't know, when you have money.