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Sabru · (This post was last modified: 08-19-2013, 09:05 AM by Sabru.)

heres a statement from Aerelm on skype a few days ago:

Quote:[10:41:21 AM] aerelm: there's not even been any talks of a roll back
[10:41:40 AM] aerelm: just felix goin around speakin his own mind without considerin the childish tearfest it'd cause
[10:42:33 AM] aerelm: so yea, here I am sayin it for the 20th time today:
[10:42:52 AM] aerelm: That was not an official admin statement, so you do not need to be concerned about it

Sabru · 08-19-2013, 09:07 AM,

as for PoBs,

if there is a good RP reason for blockade bases.....

i.e military guard systems

then yeah, by all means lock down the system.

but apart from that, blockade bases should not be allowed.

* Sabru looks at O-74

do we really want that happening all over the place?

Zen_Mechanics · 08-19-2013, 10:15 AM,

74 is a guard system ( though not recognized anymore ). But rl doesn't matter, what does matter is that it holds 3 vital stations that should not be visited by anyone but zoners, 74 is not New-York. So blocking the system to outsiders is fine by me, including "angry" zoners who align themselves with the "chaos".Further more, what part of " kill it while you can" didn't you understand? No one is going to bend the rules because now you want something gone. Your Baffin is a good example.

Were fools to make war on our brothers in arms.

PeterFreelancer · 08-19-2013, 10:16 AM,

(08-19-2013, 09:05 AM)Sabre Wrote: heres a statement from Aerelm on skype a few days ago:

Quote:[10:41:21 AM] aerelm: there's not even been any talks of a roll back
[10:41:40 AM] aerelm: just felix goin around speakin his own mind without considerin the childish tearfest it'd cause
[10:42:33 AM] aerelm: so yea, here I am sayin it for the 20th time today:
[10:42:52 AM] aerelm: That was not an official admin statement, so you do not need to be concerned about it

Good, this is very clear... I can go back to trading Tongue

Ponge · 08-19-2013, 10:20 AM,

Ok, thanks for the info on the rollback.

I am not familiar with the situation in O-74. It is a Zoner Guard system. Are the Zoners (any one of them, with Zoner ID) and players with proper guard rep allowed to go in? If yes, then those bases lock out only enemies, like the bases in Puerto Rico, which is quite understandable and valid inRP.
If this is not how it is, could you explain?

AshHill07 · (This post was last modified: 08-19-2013, 10:28 AM by AshHill07.)

I've always just been amazed as to how much everyone whined about Melbourne when we first put that up, saying it should be taken down by admins for blocking off an area to other players, and now it seems so trivial compaired to many other bases out there.

And, as far as I'm aware, the reason Omicron-74 is nolonger the Zoner Guard system is because it never was. It was a guard system, The Omicroners guard system, and it ceased to be a guard system when they ceased to be a faction.

SMI-Great.Fox · 08-19-2013, 11:31 AM,

(08-19-2013, 10:15 AM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: 74 is a guard system ( though not recognized anymore ). But rl doesn't matter, what does matter is that it holds 3 vital stations that should not be visited by anyone but zoners, 74 is not New-York. So blocking the system to outsiders is fine by me, including "angry" zoners who align themselves with the "chaos".Further more, what part of " kill it while you can" didn't you understand? No one is going to bend the rules because now you want something gone. Your Baffin is a good example.

Angry Zoners? TAZ? Uh oh. Looks like the LWB and AFA now have competition in the "Angry" Factions department.

I still don't see how your can connect Baffin to the situations in O-74. When we built Mal Freeport, we only set it to hostile due to the fact that there wasnt a blacklist we could use to simply add those who were hostile.

Tel. No offense, but you don't need to put your nose into an area you know little about, let alone argue over it.

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Doria · 08-19-2013, 01:14 PM,

(08-19-2013, 10:15 AM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: 74 is a guard system ( though not recognized anymore ). But rl doesn't matter, what does matter is that it holds 3 vital stations that should not be visited by anyone but zoners, 74 is not New-York. So blocking the system to outsiders is fine by me, including "angry" zoners who align themselves with the "chaos".Further more, what part of " kill it while you can" didn't you understand? No one is going to bend the rules because now you want something gone. Your Baffin is a good example.

The thing is, my friend, the Guard Systems are responsability of the OFFICIAL faction on that ID, in this case the Phoenix!! Is not sufficient to say: "they cant protect their own bases, let alone an entire system". YOU are not official, so you have no say in this and your bases shouldn't be there. Period.

And, by the way, 74 is a better place now. Keep it that way, please?

Thank you folks for you time wasted reading this...

Zen_Mechanics · (This post was last modified: 08-19-2013, 01:32 PM by Zen_Mechanics.)

(08-19-2013, 11:31 AM)SMI-Great.Fox Wrote:
(08-19-2013, 10:15 AM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: 74 is a guard system ( though not recognized anymore ). But rl doesn't matter, what does matter is that it holds 3 vital stations that should not be visited by anyone but zoners, 74 is not New-York. So blocking the system to outsiders is fine by me, including "angry" zoners who align themselves with the "chaos".Further more, what part of " kill it while you can" didn't you understand? No one is going to bend the rules because now you want something gone. Your Baffin is a good example.

Angry Zoners? TAZ? Uh oh. Looks like the LWB and AFA now have competition in the "Angry" Factions department.

I still don't see how your can connect Baffin to the situations in O-74. When we built Mal Freeport, we only set it to hostile due to the fact that there wasnt a blacklist we could use to simply add those who were hostile.

Tel. No offense, but you don't need to put your nose into an area you know little about, let alone argue over it.

None taken, I negelect to add that you missed my point bud, theres some sort of favioritsm and "we can and you dont" touch in this matter ~ All I've said is, people are allowed to build where-ever they want and if people whing about having core-4 stations at check-points perhaps they should have done a better job from the begining. I submit my arguement is fairly simple, if they don't like and they cannot destroy it, make "peace" with it - though "peace" is often mistaken by base-resolution-attempt-thread.
That's all.

Edit 2 : I haven't mentioned the mollies and the OSI, thats a good way to get along ( though they pay monthly I think ) - sure it pisses my sair chars but I'm only encouraged to do harder routes and in term have more contact along way.
Yet I hear "ZA" too much in such threads, odd that everybody is looking at the floor when it comes to them - I've already told the ganksters in private to knock it off - and they have had, but then some chaos order decided to push it yet again.

Edit 3 : That's the same reason why the ZA didnt have a black-list and turned it hostile to everyone, yet not a shred of "anti-taz" posts ( atleast not that massive and effective as the ZA recieved ) - I think partially its because of one guy who notoriously known to be a problem in that region, and to the fact that bottom line is - it's school where the psycopath is willing to push the fat guy on the trail because it makes him feel good - I'm not lying heaven forbid -_-

Were fools to make war on our brothers in arms.

Bootsiuv · 08-19-2013, 01:58 PM,

(08-19-2013, 01:21 PM)Tel-Aviv Wrote: it's school where the psycopath is willing to push the fat guy on the trail because it makes him feel good - I'm not lying heaven forbid -_-

Wut.

So, are you the psychopath or the fat kid in this scenario?

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