' Wrote:Russians are proud of their equipment, moreso when they were the USSR. They probably wouldnt stand for using 'inferior' foreign equipment.
TBH, I preferred the old coalition cruiser. It looked more like a submarine, and I am now disappoint that I cannot make the CSS Red October.
' Wrote:As I always say, just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should.
Yes, you can technically go make a Coalition Kalashnikov Werewolf, but that doesn't mean you should.
Likewise, while the Coalition can technically go and get a ton of new Osirises, Jormugands and Scyllas, it doesn't mean we will.
I'm of the idea that the Coalition should be as pure-tech as possible. It's not always possible of course, but when it is possible and there is a Coalition alternative, use it.
It simply doesn't make much sense for the Coalition to field Sirian ships when we have our own, perfectly capable shipline. It certainly doesn't make much sense to use foreign ships while preaching Coalition ideologies. The Coalition is a proud faction, much like the Corsairs and like them, we're proud of our ships. Well, maybe In-RP anyway. I know the Corsairs like to complain sometimes.
I actually think the only non-coalition tech I'm carrying is the wasupu.
Problem is, that changing the ship actually causes more trouble than not changing it.
It's pretty much a character that joined them from outside, having already a story outside. Could get the ship, chances are the member is gonna be useless after getting it:laugh:.
It actually makes sense to field non-coalition ships if the member joined with that ship and it pretty much is his "trademark ship", besides that, what Daedric said. It makes sense to use them while being part of the faction
' Wrote:Russians are proud of their equipment, moreso when they were the USSR. They probably wouldnt stand for using 'inferior' foreign equipment.
what about fitting it in-RP with Russian Tech so it's "an immigrant russian"?:P
Not quite, Coalition ships are Coalition. They were no doubt inspired by Sirian designs, and may use technology based on other factions, but every Coalition ship is built within the Coalition, using the Coalition blend of technology, industrial processes and materials. I believe right now the Coalition is using a technological blend of Coalition, Red Hessian, Gallic and Phantom Technology, but I may be wrong.
And on the contrary Daedric, Coalition ships are built to be easily maintained, modular, and efficient in resource use. What we'd save on the initial construction (which is not that much), we end up losing more by wasting our time and resources trying to retrofit foreign ships to be compatible with our weapon and power systems, as well as keeping the ship repaired would be much more difficult since we can't use the same modular parts we'd use on our other snubs to repair it. We'd have to custom make the parts, and that's simply impracticable.
Quote:Russians are proud of their equipment, moreso when they were the USSR. They probably wouldnt stand for using 'inferior' foreign equipment.
This is basically the Coalition mentality when it comes to foreign technology.
' Wrote:Not quite, Coalition ships are Coalition. They were no doubt inspired by Sirian designs, and may use technology based on other factions, but every Coalition ship is built within the Coalition, using the Coalition blend of technology, industrial processes and materials. I believe right now the Coalition is using a technological blend of Coalition, Red Hessian, Gallic and Phantom Technology, but I may be wrong.
And on the contrary Daedric, Coalition ships are built to be easily maintained, modular, and efficient in resource use. What we'd save on the initial construction (which
This is basically the Coalition mentality when it comes to foreign technology.
The Coalition is a Sirian entity. Omega-52 is a star system in the Sirius sector. Thus, Coalition technology is Sirian technology.
I can counter your arguemnt about Coalition ships by saying all ships are built to be easily maintianed, modular, and efficient. Claims are claims.
Facts is, it is cheaper for the Coalition to allow a defector to retain the use of his own personal vessel. They don't need to build and outfit a new rig for him. Over time, yes, he would probably be forced into a Coalition rig in order to curb the cost of repairing his old rig.
Quote:The Coalition is a Sirian entity. Omega-52 is a star system in the Sirius sector. Thus, Coalition technology is Sirian technology.
Call it what you want, either way it doesn't change the fact that the Coalition's technological blend is unique, and incompatible with most other technology without extensive modification.
Quote:I can counter your argument about Coalition ships by saying all ships are built to be easily maintianed, modular, and efficient. Claims are claims.
Even assuming all ships are built to be easily maintained, modular and efficient, it wouldn't matter within this context.
If you're building Insurgents to be modular and you mass produce their parts, and suddenly a Wasupu shows up needing a new engine or fuel system, you won't be able to use the parts you would use for the Insurgent. They're two completely different ships built and designed by completely different organizations. Just because two guns built by two different companies and are of different models are chambered in the same calibre, it doesn't mean you can suddenly use the parts from one gun to fix the other. The designs just aren't the same, and they weren't built with the other in mind. You might be lucky and be able to get a spring or something small to work, but in the context of a Fighter, nope.
Quote:Facts is, it is cheaper for the Coalition to allow a defector to retain the use of his own personal vessel. They don't need to build and outfit a new rig for him. Over time, yes, he would probably be forced into a Coalition rig in order to curb the cost of repairing his old rig.
No, it really isn't. The problems that would arise from maintaining said ship wouldn't be worth it. Besides, if he's fighting for the Coalition, under the Coalition flag, why would he use the ships that our enemies would use?
' Wrote:If you're building Insurgents to be modular and you mass produce their parts, and suddenly a Wasupu shows up needing a new engine or fuel system, you won't be able to use the parts you would use for the Insurgent. They're two completely different ships built and designed by completely different organizations. Just because two guns built by two different companies and are of different models are chambered in the same calibre, it doesn't mean you can suddenly use the parts from one gun to fix the other. The designs just aren't the same, and they weren't built with the other in mind. You might be lucky and be able to get a spring or something small to work, but in the context of a Fighter, nope.
Actually, you can use it if parts are similar, there's other parts missing? there's a debris field near the jump hole.
Also, Wasupu is civilian, and as far I know, Coalition can use civilian ships, which would be said to use compatible or adaptable parts.
' Wrote:No, it really isn't. The problems that would arise from maintaining said ship wouldn't be worth it. Besides, if he's fighting for the Coalition, under the Coalition flag, why would he use the ships that our enemies would use?
is more worth it than training the pilot for a completely strange ship when he already has expertise with the other one that is already built, and given how coalition training is, chances they end up giving out more ships than parts to the average pilot:laugh:, that is if he survives of course.