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[Highland Laddie]

Just play the game for fun.Dont make this server not so fun,in its dying days.Keep the fun alive as long as this server loses its activity in a few days due to the new games of this genre.Dont make this a full RP/lore and forum oriented server in its sunset days.We have to keep the lulz to some extent in the game,so that weall can have equal fun.

One person's "fun" can be another person's trolling.

Hey, why don't we just give EVERYBODY a Nephilim and then we can all just be happy people with our big ships and nobody would complain about anything ever again! Yeah....

You assume that all of us can rid of our caps and continue rp our caps with transports and you call that fun, well - it might be fun for you, but thats just you.

It's silly to suggest RPing that a Transport is a Battleship. That doesn't mean you can't still make a specialized transport and RP it as a Colony ship. A "colony ship" doesn't have to have any specific definitions in this game, other than having enough space for people, food, and water. Whereas a battleship is made specifically for battle.

[Zen_Mechanics]

This arguement is not closed, it never existed.

I proposed the thought as a solution to the "battleships are colony ships" arguement, not that we should replace battleships.

No, you can't have a representation of the colony ship, but with proper background RP and convincing commodities on board you can come pretty damn close.

You're just coming up with dumb situations to try and prove your point, but who would legitimately do that?

No, the very fact that you even bring up the possibility just to add even more intense pressure on the debate is what drives my point. Your point does not stand when it comes down to a person to -person encounter, no matter how many spaceship crews you have, you still dont have a battleship and you can't do a thing to prove otherwise. And if you really think that "pretending" makes your whale a "legit" battleship, you are wrong.

Want to do that? do it in the forums, where there is no requirement for an actuall representation, but you won't convince anyone out in space, because you will fail the test, and people will call your bluff.

You need to stop looking at the "what-ifs" here.

Things like RPing your Whale as a Battleship can be stupid, but still fun. Tell me, hiw do you roleplay a liner? Do I just automatically have passengers onboard or should I actually have some?

Roleplay is not about representing your massive pixel penis, it's about having fun, and if mocking a battleship in a whale is fun, go ahead and do it, no one will stop you.

At this point, it's clear that you just want toys to shoot things with and don't care about the roleplay.

No no, You see I write 13 pages everyday for my studies because I have to, I write my rp in disco because I like it, and among the things I like are, being one, flying a real battleship that I actually also RP in text. You assume that all of us can rid of our caps and continue rp our caps with transports and you call that fun, well - it might be fun for you, but thats just you. You want to do that, be our guest - but dont even think about putting this excuse as an attempt to slash our "toys" away. If that doesn't do it, I don't know what.

I never said you had to RP caps as transports or vice-versa. Unless you have a colony ship, this did not pertain to you.

And you do not need a battleship for RP, especially Zoner RP.

Yes you do, when you have a faction thats 4 years old, and though not all of it, circles around battleships - you wish to take that away from them for the sake of other reasons. I'll be sure to open a thread and boycott another faction, and be sure to get invited to post that excuse there as well.
That's a really ugly move bud.

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[.Gypsy.]

Hey, why don't we just give EVERYBODY a Nephilim and then we can all just be happy people with our big ships and nobody would complain about anything ever again! Yeah....

You mean like liberty now *drum sound* bud da bump

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[t0l]

No, the very fact that you even bring up the possibility just to add even more intense pressure on the debate is what drives my point. Your point does not stand when it comes down to a person to -person encounter, no matter how many spaceship crews you have, you still dont have a battleship and you can't do a thing to prove otherwise. And if you really think that "pretending" makes your whale a "legit" battleship, you are wrong.

Want to do that? do it in the forums, where there is no requirement for an actuall representation, but you won't convince anyone out in space, because you will fail the test, and people will call your bluff.

You need to stop looking at the "what-ifs" here.

Things like RPing your Whale as a Battleship can be stupid, but still fun. Tell me, hiw do you roleplay a liner? Do I just automatically have passengers onboard or should I actually have some?

Roleplay is not about representing your massive pixel penis, it's about having fun, and if mocking a battleship in a whale is fun, go ahead and do it, no one will stop you.

At this point, it's clear that you just want toys to shoot things with and don't care about the roleplay.

No no, You see I write 13 pages everyday for my studies because I have to, I write my rp in disco because I like it, and among the things I like are, being one, flying a real battleship that I actually also RP in text. You assume that all of us can rid of our caps and continue rp our caps with transports and you call that fun, well - it might be fun for you, but thats just you. You want to do that, be our guest - but dont even think about putting this excuse as an attempt to slash our "toys" away. If that doesn't do it, I don't know what.

I never said you had to RP caps as transports or vice-versa. Unless you have a colony ship, this did not pertain to you.

And you do not need a battleship for RP, especially Zoner RP.

Yes you do, when you have a faction thats 4 years old, and though not all of it, circles around battleships - you wish to take that away from them for the sake of other reasons. I'll be sure to open a thread and boycott another faction, and be sure to get invited to post that excuse there as well.
That's a really ugly move bud.

What faction is this?

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[Enkidu]

You need to stop looking at the "what-ifs" here.

Things like RPing your Whale as a Battleship can be stupid, but still fun. Tell me, hiw do you roleplay a liner? Do I just automatically have passengers onboard or should I actually have some?

Roleplay is not about representing your massive pixel penis, it's about having fun, and if mocking a battleship in a whale is fun, go ahead and do it, no one will stop you.

At this point, it's clear that you just want toys to shoot things with and don't care about the roleplay.

No no, You see I write 13 pages everyday for my studies because I have to, I write my rp in disco because I like it, and among the things I like are, being one, flying a real battleship that I actually also RP in text. You assume that all of us can rid of our caps and continue rp our caps with transports and you call that fun, well - it might be fun for you, but thats just you. You want to do that, be our guest - but dont even think about putting this excuse as an attempt to slash our "toys" away. If that doesn't do it, I don't know what.

I never said you had to RP caps as transports or vice-versa. Unless you have a colony ship, this did not pertain to you.

And you do not need a battleship for RP, especially Zoner RP.

Yes you do, when you have a faction thats 4 years old, and though not all of it, circles around battleships - you wish to take that away from them for the sake of other reasons. I'll be sure to open a thread and boycott another faction, and be sure to get invited to post that excuse there as well.
That's a really ugly move bud.

What faction is this?

House military factions have a certain excuse to circle around battleships, so big ship-to-ship fleet engagements can occur. This doesn't necessarily imply that battleships should be near-consistently utilised.


Zoners however?

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[Thunderer]

Nice.
* Thunderer places two Dunkirks in front of Freeport 1.

Jokes aside, Jinx is getting better and better at ship designing, but I do think that it's a bit unfair to remove the Zoners' battleships, since most of them weren't for any change. This being done, only one of the mentioned two groups can logically be pleased, or none.

Although I would like Freeport 1 being undefended. (devil)

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[Enkidu]

I see Kaz lurking… can we have some insight here?

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[Kazinsal]

It's a strange day when I of all people am asked for insight.

I digress.


Basically, all I can really do is say, what's done is done. I can't reverse this, nor am I going to (personally, I've been campaigning against Zoner warships for years now and backing it up with the same lore and roleplay references and comparisons, and hey, it finally worked). No amount of whining or counterargumentation is going to reverse this decision. Unless we're all stricken by lightning and we all drop dead at the same time, the development team will be proceeding in this direction as planned. I apologize if you don't like this, but my colleague said it best:

Fairness
noun
The concept of equal treatment, often misapplied.

Antonyms: Life, Sirius

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[Umber]

Nice.
* Thunderer places two Dunkirks in front of Freeport 1.

Although I would like Freeport 1 being undefended. (devil)

I bet the Reavers would love that too.

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[Zen_Mechanics]

And were supposed to become another useless trading faction that cant even deploy these new ships anywhere but outside house space, oh - have I also mentioned the fact that it wont have a big cargo haul, say the least - 5000? Good job jinx, I hope you are proud of yourself. You know what would be a "-almost accepted compensation?" - to keep the current nephils to their owners and remove sell-points, but ofcourse you wouldn't like that.

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