So I was idling on skype the other day, since my net was buggy as hell and one of my contacts dropped this in one of the chats:
The question here revolves around a very specific moment we need to consider, before we try to answer it or even formulate it.
Just how serious Discovery Freelancer is, when it comes to Roleplay and the depth of roleplay?
I've personally brought 4 people into Disco, all of which are seasoned roleplayers and have years of RP experience under their belts in various forum and chat based RPs. Needless to say, I think only one of them still remains, but two of them did end up leaving, because the quality and, note, the attitude towards RP on Disco was lacking.
Was that elitist? Sure. But a roleplayer has their own standards and if they are not fulfilled, then they simply, as many of you have told such people before, move on to greener fields.
So my question is simple, just how seriously we treat RP these days? By that, I mean our own RP and the RP of other members, be they new or old. If you sit in the Disco TS a lot, you might get a good idea of what I am referring to, especially when faction leaders join in sometimes.
My second question is even more fun. Just what sort of players we target with Disco? Surely not hardcore RPers due to above mentioned examples. And we tend to look down on people, who join for the sake of just playing the game.
You join to have fun during raids, you are a lesser person. You do serious RP and people think you are trying too hard.
Where's the balance?
TLR
We treat RP seriously only when it is beneficial to us.
Other times, the elite just laughs at the people, who do not know better.
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Quote:Where's the balance?
There is none. It's all personal preference. If you love to hardcore RP then do so. After all its an RP server. If you like to PvP, then do so. If youre somewhere in the middle then that's fine. The thing is, there's not enough people out there to help the inexperienced. It's all "He no RP, report" rather than explaining to them on what they need to do
This is a 12 year old spaceship game that only a handful of people know/care about, that really contributes nothing to society or life.
It's hard to take anything from something like that seriously, yes, even some in-depth RP that people have spent years on. It's nice, but I don't really "care" about it, or take it seriously.
EDIT: And as Scum said, you -shouldn't- take it serious either, it's a freaking game.
(03-17-2014, 08:40 AM)sindroms Wrote: Just how serious Discovery Freelancer is, when it comes to Roleplay and the depth of roleplay?
So my question is simple, just how seriously we treat RP these days? By that, I mean our own RP and the RP of other members, be they new or old. If you sit in the Disco TS a lot, you might get a good idea of what I am referring to, especially when faction leaders join in sometimes.
My second question is even more fun. Just what sort of players we target with Disco? Surely not hardcore RPers due to above mentioned examples. And we tend to look down on people, who join for the sake of just playing the game.
You join to have fun during raids, you are a lesser person. You do serious RP and people think you are trying too hard.
Where's the balance?
Hmmm.... this is quite a good point.
we cant really, as a whole, go uber serious on RP but on the flip side we cant neglect it.
@Snoopyman the attitude you describe, is in my personal opinion, part of a vicious cycle.
that being:
Newb does something ooRP ---> Someone PMs and offers advice ---> newb tells them off or ignores it --->the helpful player then goes "hmm... if they dont want help, i wont offer it." ---> Then we have the rise of "rule breaking? screen and report" attitude ---> not many people willing to help newbs because of the bad apples ----> Newb does something ooRP ---> etc etc etc.
Im NOT saying all newbs are like that, but they are present in Disco.
We treat RP seriously only when it is beneficial to us.
Other times, the elite just laughs at the people, who do not know better.
EDIT:
By that I mean, when we need to promote factions, groups and the server itself, we focus on RP.
When we don't, the attitude overall is something along the lines of "Pfft, we all know why we are really here. Stop kidding yourselves."
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PSA: If you have been having stutter/FPS lag on Disco where it does not run as smoothly as other games, please look at the fix here: https://discoverygc.com/forums/showthrea...pid2306502
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It's just a byproduct of the way this place has been for a long long time, during which serious roleplay gained no tangible results. The people who could be bothered are all gone or just play the game for what it is, a game. I'm never going to try to make an official faction again, certainly never going to file an SRP again. Too much risk of putting time and effort into something and then getting it shot down because it doesn't conform to somebody's idea of roleplay.
Yes, I was a moderator, yes, I realize that things work a little differently internally now (although not as hugely as some of you might suspect). I'm happy to do the whole krieg leader and faction maintenance thing, but after the NTF getting denied official status, the Consortium getting denied official status, the HF repeatedly having to re-SRP their ships, and the overarching hostile response to Alley's/Huggie's squid roleplay which was the first thing in half a decade that would've changed the nomads, I'll never see the point of any seriously game changing roleplay again unless a vast majority of the dev and admin team agree to it prior, and I think that's pretty sad.
:| I'm about to have someone murdered in cold blood, while simultaneously conducting massively unethical experiments involving getting orphan children hooked on copious amounts of drugs before harvesting their brain matter in the most violent and disgusting manner possible in order to make specialized biocomputers.