i always liked the idea that samura and the farmers would openly support the exiles forces. and maybe even build some infra strukture (shipwharf) to aid them with new ships
btw. there is a jumphole from lyonnais to rishiri so the council could offer to help the exiles for a mostly secure (hokkaido is still a bottleneck ^^) way to connect champagne with roussllion (maybe a new trade route).
1st side: Republicans Kishiro - backing current government (and in effect their own future and interests) in Tokho. KNF & KSP - following orders of the government.
Holding New Tokyo and Shikoku
Supported by: GRN (Not significant, primary forces busy elsewhere)
2nd side: Imperialists Samura - Restoring the old order by funding Emperor's crusade. Exiles - KNF loyal to the Emperor Farmers - Samura lapdogs, not much to say. Hogosha - Seeing opportunity in seizing more profit, side with Emperor to settle score against GMG/BD/GC and get gains over diminished importance of Republic.
Holding Kyushu, Tottori, Nagano
Supported by: Bretonia (absolutely minimal due to war)
3rd side: Revolutionaires GMG - They seek to achieve territorial gains like their ancestral home Honshu. Blood Dragons - unmmissable occasion to raise their own revolution and in effect cease Kishiro and Samura interference. The Order - Heaven's Arch vulnerable more than ever. Possibility of installing Order-friendly government. Golden Chrysanthemums - Finishing off their enemies in corporation. Their chance at adjusting Kusari culture once in power.
Holding Honshu, Okinawa, Chugoku
Supported by: Rheinland? (Wish to retain H-Fuel access)
Kyushu & Tau 29
More conservatist community, heavily influenced by Samura. Main powerbase of Imperialists and staging point in their offensives once securing their backside from Gallic intervention (sealing off Tau-29 - Tau-31 jumpgate would be their ideal scenario, given mineral riches of Tau's). Region likely suffering from GRN and GC skirmishers from various jumpholes.
New Tokyo & Shikoku
Capital under siege from all sides. Concentration of all remaining KNF fleets (still significant enough to defend Tokyo) The only relative safe side is Liberty border from which through they are likely to source neccesary materials if convincing house to their side. Rampart blockade running and smuggling operations funded by GMG to ship fuel farther galactic south are in my opinion the majority of "criminal activity" in this part of Kusari.
Honshu & Okinawa
Honshu while traditionally being behind Kishiro, I would expect it to turn into fierce battlefield against rising Dragon insurgency and GMG invasion from Okinawa, seizing space superiority over most of the system. Honshu as a planet remains turbulent among civilian population, with Republican resistance ongoing.
Northern Kusari (Chugoku, Hokkaido, Nagano, Rishiri, Tohoku)
(big royal mess)
Blood Dragon and The Order interference causes severe interruptions to Republican and Imperial claims in this part of space. Key point for Imperials and Revolutionaires is to seal the Gallic border as soon as possible. Central battlefield occures in Rishiri, where all three groups clash. Nagano likely to be sieged and plagued by pirates and skirmishers from Tau or Chugoku. The Order bent on removing Republican battlegroup (which may or not be recalled back to core worlds beforehand) as the only barrier stopping them from amassing invasion on Heaven's Arch.
Sigmas (very lacking)
Samura unlikely to mantain Kurile, likely to be overrun by GMG-backed forces early in the war. Corsair and Outcast stakes in Sigmas would hinder Revolutionaires progress on New Tokyo front significantly, giving Kishiro backed government more breathing ground.
(05-29-2014, 04:17 PM)Zen_Mechanics Wrote: You mean liberty, which for unknown reasons has unlimited resources to not only fight outcasts, rogues, xenos, but rheinland and gallia without having any blow. you are wrong, Liberty is biased by the devs, I mean, all other houses go to the trash but not liberty, but i suppose because its "liberty" and becuase it centers freelancer it somehow cant lose, like a good hero story.
Let's not derail things going on about houses outside of Kusari, but there's a reason why Gallia is dominating in the storyline...
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"Valor" Gallic Royal Navy Battleship
Prior to the gathering of truly viable information on the capabilities of the four houses of Sirius the engineers of the Royal Navy were left with the task of crafting a vessel capable of repelling an unknown force of unknown capabilities. They chose the path of brutality.
Peerless within Sirius for their technological amenities, bombardment capabilities and enduring fortitude, the Valor is the result of nearly unlimited resources poured into the concept of overwhelming security. Forged to last the centuries and single handily quell the planetary populations of entire star systems, the Valor is a massive Dreadnaught, built to dominate any fight it becomes a part of.
(05-29-2014, 03:21 PM)Highland Laddie Wrote: Regarding Gallic intervention: can Gallia really afford to spread themselves thinner and still keep adequate war pressure against all its enemies?
Perhaps an intervention by them into Kusari would be the catalyst needed by Liberty, Council, Bretonia, Outcasts, Colonials (and maybe even Gaians and IMG, or even Junkers) to counter-attack and make real headway against the Gauls.
You mean liberty, which for unknown reasons has unlimited resources to not only fight outcasts, rogues, xenos, but rheinland and gallia without having any blow. you are wrong, Liberty is biased by the devs, I mean, all other houses go to the trash but not liberty, but i suppose because its "liberty" and becuase it centers freelancer it somehow cant lose, like a good hero story.
The only heros on this side of Disco are the Colonias. No matter what the Devs or the players throu at us we will face it U_U
Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the only reason than Liberty can send troops to Bretonia is that the Reinald Military blow up the gates to their territory, AND because at least inRP Liberty have the Upper hand?
(05-29-2014, 11:35 PM)KaiserDietz Wrote: The [C]ouncil is already experiencing a massive inRP cap build up to bolster a push into Gallia, could this be used as a distraction?
If Galia suport Kusary they will have in inRP they will have to compromise troops somewhere, if this somewhere is Galia itself Alehoop!! But I doubt that happen.
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Yeah...I thought Liberty-Rheinland outright war was more or less done...so Liberty can shift focus onto Magellan/Gallic front.
Quote:You mean liberty, which for unknown reasons has unlimited resources to not only fight outcasts, rogues, xenos, but rheinland and gallia without having any blow. you are wrong, Liberty is biased by the devs, I mean, all other houses go to the trash but not liberty, but i suppose because its "liberty" and becuase it centers freelancer it somehow cant lose, like a good hero story.
Also...not to derail the discussion...but keep in mind the Rogues, Xenos, and Lane Hackers together are no where near as powerful as a House military, even combined. Especially one that has the economic power that Liberty has.
But as far as Gallia goes...if there was some sort of concentrated push by all anti-Gallic forces...it's reasonable to think that ground we be made against them SOMEWHERE. That's not even taking into account action by Gallic belligerents like the Brigands and Maquis as well.
Back to Kusari: I like the scenario that Omicron has put together.
Should Liberty get involved, we may in fact not side with Kogen's Exiles (Imperials), because when they were in charge, they didn't treat us that nicely. Fighting alongside them for a brief time in Leeds probably doesn't grant that much merit.
As for the Republicans, they recently embargoed Liberty. And though that has been called off, and Liberty's corporations are free to trade through their territory, the new government still was responsible for bowing down to Gallia and has been a supporter for Rheinland. Liberty does however (if truly like the space US/Canada that it is) like having a democratic neighbor.
The Blood Dragons on the other hand (as far as I am aware) do not have many large standing issues with Liberty. They aren't considered criminals, nor are their ships barred under the Laws of Liberty. Through supporting them, Liberty may then have a better relationship with the GMG. That said, of the three sides, the Revolutionaries are likely the weakest.
Involvement doesn't have to be ships in space either, for Liberty is quite capable of lend/lease programs, sending officers for training, etc.. Anyway, nothing has really been decided for Liberty's involvement yet. We'll start discussing though
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I would like to hear the people of the GMG on this, but I have the assumption that GMG wouldn't like to be directly involved in the affairs inside Kusari, so they wouldn't try an invasion of Honshu. They would however see this as a good opportunity to settle their disputes with Samura over the Kurile and sigma-17.
Out of the three, I also think that a closer alliance with the ones who might get them closer to GMG supplies is Liberty's main interest. Also, Liberty would try it's best to have the Republicans not calling Gallia for reinforcements, however how they would do that eludes me.
A Council strike in the lower Taus, combined with a new push inside Gallia, could be a major distraction that could take the Gallia threat out of the Civil war. Whether the Council wants to go forward with that, and whether the other allies want to make a combined effort to strike the Gallics, is beyond the scope of the Kusari war.
Todays was the reviews be the KNF community. Most of them consider that the Revolutionaries (thanks Omicron) are in no position to challenge the main power. Others have said that the focus of the conflict, if any, should be centered on Samura and Kishiro, most likely with the KNF in a neutral stance. Most simply, the concept Zelot presented in the first post.
I have some doubts about the balance of the powers of each side, but the comments of today have shaken my resolve about this whole idea, so I'll leave for tomorrow more accurate insights.
If we consider the Corporations roles in the conflict, I guess we all agree that Samura most certainly has their sights in supporting the emperor (although they could ditch him if a better compromise appeared).
About GMG involvement-
The greatest problem isn't even GMG, but Kishiro. Having achieved a major political victory with the regime change (whether it was properly justified or not is a thing of the past), and therefore would seem awkward for them to side on the Revolutionaries side against the Republicans, and the Exile threat is not that big that requires the Republicans to make "a pact with the devil" to survive.
Also, Kishiro collaborated with GMG to develop the Okinawa system, and built specialized ships for the Gas Miners, and got a few exploration sites in return. There has been little done on the Kishiro and Republican part to justify the GMG going all hostile for Honshu.
Perhaps after the Imperial/Republican sides were established, and Samura declared it's intention to side with the Imperials, GMG could offer their support for the Republicans, in return for concessions in the Sigma-17.
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Liberty and Rheinland- Liberty (or some of it's corporations) have made deals with GMG in the past to circumvent Kusari decisions (like the embargoes, and that weird "Slaves to Okinawa" program). Their good relationship could influence Liberty to make decisions about the war that benefit GMG more than the other parties, who might not yield such good results if supported.
In the case of Rheinland-GMG relations, I guess history does not put them in a good standing. Most corporations dislike GMG, and enjoy more the access to the Gallic markets without Liberty hindering their efforts. My initial evaluation would be that their money would be on the Republicans.
Quote:In the case of Rheinland-GMG relations, I guess history does not put them in a good standing. Most corporations dislike GMG, and enjoy more the access to the Gallic markets without Liberty hindering their efforts. My initial evaluation would be that their money would be on the Republicans.
Why would Rheinland Corporations aid republicans when clearly GMG are favouring them.
(H-Fuel can be an issue but if Fuel is the only reason, then probably every corporation and house will choose not to stand against the GMG-Favoured side leaving Imperials alienated).