(05-26-2014, 01:28 AM)|nfrared Wrote: ...
Frustration at feeling like we have been jerked around.
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I mean this in the kindest possible way, but it is not my role to keep tabs on the myriad player factions on the server (official or otherwise) - I simply do not have the time*. If there are problems, queries, or concerns, particularly regarding development-related matters, I am happy to take private communications by forum PM or Skype, or I can direct players towards an appropriate avenue of resolution. I can't help you if you don't ask for my help.
*and this probably applies for the other Admin and Dev staff members too.
As a personal lover of this whole idea, might I remind all that this is an indy group and as such should be free to express their own ideas and actions.
If this faction wants to be the indy infiltration, iridium eating/using, high tech using, silicon born, alien faction, I'd say let them and see how it ends up. I will say this would not be the first alien indy faction attempt I've seen however all my time here. (I have a few other accounts then this one mind some people..)
Anyways I want to personally say, I love the idea and the will to keep it alive.
Don't let others get to you, do what I did when people flaked my faction, I used that flak and keeping going off of what I already was doing. If people don't like it, then that's their own opinion. All that matters is on how you see it and how you want to run it.
So explain something to me, you use FL ID's, untagged base yet act like the military when in Omicron Lost. During that time you threaten to attack us when on the FL ID it states you cannot attack unless
Quote:Pilot carrying this quasi-lawful ID is a Freelancer, who:
Can attack any ship in self-defense or to protect an allied or neutral ship.
Can fulfill any bounty and escort contracts, and may treat transports as combat targets when executing a bounty or escort contract against them.
Then to top it off, you metagame against me, stating I attacked you station when I was sitting some distance from it, watching it, then powergame your way out saying that I did indeed attack when I never did.
Can you explain to me what is wrong with all of this?
(07-01-2014, 08:06 PM)Shizune Wrote: So explain something to me, you use FL ID's, untagged base yet act like the military when in Omicron Lost. During that time you threaten to attack us when on the FL ID it states you cannot attack unless
Quote:Pilot carrying this quasi-lawful ID is a Freelancer, who:
Can attack any ship in self-defense or to protect an allied or neutral ship.
Can fulfill any bounty and escort contracts, and may treat transports as combat targets when executing a bounty or escort contract against them.
Are we not allowed to bluff in this game? I never opened fire until I was attacked first.
(07-01-2014, 08:06 PM)Shizune Wrote: Then to top it off, you metagame against me, stating I attacked you station when I was sitting some distance from it, watching it, then powergame your way out saying that I did indeed attack when I never did.
Can you explain to me what is wrong with all of this?
Again, I was bluffing.
Secondly from my perspective the base was firing on both ships when I unlocked, from that reasoning I determined that both vessels had opened fire on the station.
I apologize that you feel like this was a metagaming and powergaming RP issue. However I feel that I acted within reasonable bounds.
(07-01-2014, 08:06 PM)Shizune Wrote: So explain something to me, you use FL ID's, untagged base yet act like the military when in Omicron Lost. During that time you threaten to attack us when on the FL ID it states you cannot attack unless
Quote:Pilot carrying this quasi-lawful ID is a Freelancer, who:
Can attack any ship in self-defense or to protect an allied or neutral ship.
Can fulfill any bounty and escort contracts, and may treat transports as combat targets when executing a bounty or escort contract against them.
Then to top it off, you metagame against me, stating I attacked you station when I was sitting some distance from it, watching it, then powergame your way out saying that I did indeed attack when I never did.
Can you explain to me what is wrong with all of this?
While I wasn't actually present at this encounter as the faction leader and base owner, having read the chatlogs of this incident I think it is fair to say that there is a difference between "threatening to attack" and actually doing it. What you have actually experienced is an unknown alien's disdain for humans. You felt lied to? Good. My people are doing their job!
This is a tactic we have had to adopt, and normally gets a hostile response, provoking others into attacking first and therefore triggering the self defense line on our ID, making this the only way for us to provoke combat.
In that chatlog you admit to "tickling" the base. Etherium don't like being tickled.
The base is set to be hostile (although it seems that my guys missed this point), for a few reasons. It blends it in with the rest of the colonial wreckage. These aliens don't want random visitors. If the base is under attack in my eyes that threatens the other ships of the [?] faction and therefore illicits a response in accordance with line 1 of the Freelancer ID. I know it doesn't say "or base" but we are restricted by the ingame mechanics and it would make no sense for us sit by and watch as our installation we have worked hard on is destroyed. If I could have an ID that covered our faction I would, but to get that we have been told we have to use existing ID's to work up to official status for that.
There are no rules saying we cannot threaten to attack, nor are there any rules to say we cannot act like we own the system (whether we actually do or not is irrelevant). Many factions make claim to the same system. Ask other people that have had encounters with us, we change our story every time in an attempt to deceive and confuse. I hope this sheds some light on our actions.
If you believe we broke rules, I'm sure you know this isn't the place for that.
An update on our progress -
The base is at Core 2 with a few defense platforms now. Currently we have no instances of open hostilities from organised factions and have managed to keep our encounters neutral and confusing. We are doing our best to give no one a reason to investigate us further, and are still maintaining the facade of a freelance mining faction. As such our diplomacy has not been altered yet.
In RP we are assessing the wreckage we have inhabited and are using salvaged tech to upgrade it. One battleship that attacked us and came off second-best has been used for the materials of weaponising and upgrading our home. Info can be found in the "Object Unknown, New Etheria High Orbit" thread in my sig.
So far everything is more or less as we had planned it. We encourage feedback from those that have encountered us.