hahaha i guess dublin is grn space now :)

[Thunderer]

I believe that a won argument is the one after which both sides are satisfied.

I'd love to know where you have your arguments, because I don't think that's generally how these things work.

Unfortunately, it is not. But, cannot we change it?

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[Vredes]

I really don't see how this is causing so much confusion.
Gallia is at war with Bretonia.

Dame Street Castle was a Bretonian lawful base in a Bretonian system one jump away from the primary staging ground of the largest invasion fleet Sirius has ever seen.

So IS Rheinland With liberty. I want a permission to siege Long Island, not because I hate the owners but because most of the RNC PvP whores would like a good siege.

You (i.e. Grail) keep prattling on about GRN| having low activity, but then seem to suggest that sieging a POB (something that, you know, requires us to get in game to generate said activity) is something we should be actively avoiding. I doubt you wouldn't have objected if GRN| had racked up the tracker hours by escorting miners in the Graves Asteroid Field. Maybe it's all a matter of perspective, hm?

So do you see any GRN after the siege? Nope gone for good, until BMM or Bowex decide to build a base in lets say Cambridge or O3. You will see GRN indie valors popping out of nowhere, because you know the weekly... I mean yearly schedule of these particular GRN?

log-kill fun-disappear-repeat

I think I wrote a thread about restricting cap ships for good. And recently again and I still think it is the best option not to have a fleet of braindead cap indies PvP whoring or ooRP sieging.

This is a recipe for a no-holds-barred cap fight with a base in the background, not a base siege. If I wanted to fight Discovery's entire Dunkirk squad, this is what I would have done. Unfortunately, that isn't what I wanted; I wanted to kill a POB.

Why did you want to kill the PoB in the first place? Because the inRP game events demand it. So why are you committing ooRP actions in order to achieve an inRP victory?

Please point out exactly which aspect of GRN's part in Dame Street Castle's deconstruction you believe was against the server rules, and I'll do my best to alleviate your concerns.

Thought I saw sometime back, maybe an year ago, when I left, the rules about that PoB engagements should be done inRP.

However I would like to repeat myself. In case you don't even bother reading the things I write.
Why would you want the ooRP destruction of a Player operated Base other than some extreme rage and hate towards its owner?

[Omi]

I'm really not sure how to address the vast majority of your post, particularly in regard to Long Island sieging and how I should apparently be RPing my calls for people to log (or something..?)

Instead, I'll just point out the big bolded and supposedly very important part:

Why would you want the ooRP destruction of a Player operated Base other than some extreme rage and hate towards its owner?

Because I don't believe that miners should have a 100% safe-and-secure impenetrable docking point barely 5-10k from the mining zone? Graves Station isn't even that far away to begin with, but with DSC around piracy would have been almost impossible.

Bear in mind this is an ooRP reason because this is what you asked for - I think the iRP reason for doing it should be fairly obvious.

Suggesting that I did it because I have some sort of vendetta or uncontrollable, festering anger towards Grail in particular falls flat on its face because I have no idea who the damn guy is and had never heard of him until yesterday.

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[Vredes]

So you want to tell me you sieged the base because it was an ooRP pirate spray? Despite the tons of RP done concerning the base it is gone for a couple of hours. Damn I cant describe how low this is. Maybe you should change your priorities...

[Vredes]

Because I don't believe that miners should have a 100% safe-and-secure impenetrable docking point barely 5-10k from the mining zone? Graves Station isn't even that far away to begin with, but with DSC around piracy would have been almost impossible.

So I get it you don't anything better to do while people are sleeping. I don't really care about your connection to video games. But lets say the base is rebuild for the sole purpose to storage Ore. Lets say it is rebuild in Dublin but 10-20k from the mining field. Would you set your alarm in 6 AM to siege it or would you RP it first?

[Lythrilux]

Any base that exists within a mining field should be put down, regardless of who needs to do the shooting or not.
Also, hello serious flood discussion.

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[Omi]

Well, since I'm a scummy hate-filled POB-smashing no-lifer who regards the concept of 'fun' as an abomination to be taken out the back and shot in the head, I'd probably camp every entrance to Dublin with 2 Valors each to shoot down the Base Construction Platform before it even got into position.

After calling in my K'Hara Skypefriends to park a few permacloak Marduks around the place for me. As, y'know, insurance.

Obviously.

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[Sabru]

this thread is approaching zoner tears level stuff.

If any base were made, Mollys would siege that one as well. inRP we get cranky at people building in our backyard.
ooRP base sieges can be quite the good social event.

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[Pinko]

If you really want me to walk you through everything that's wrong with your previous couple of posts regarding Molly-GRN 'conspiracies' and the supposed lack of jumphole usage by house militaries, as well as the numerous other baseless accusations and inaccuracies you've merrily outlined, just say so and I'll be only too happy to help.

I just wanna add for those confused about militaries and JHs.


the whole Bretonia invasion happened because the Unione Corse sold out the Lewis JH position to the Crown. Gallia has been using all the Jump Holes available to its reach to do this invasion. It's why and how they're destroying everything, by overwhelming the Bretonians on all possible fronts.

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I want to get off Mr. Igiss' wild ride.

[Vredes]

Well, since I'm a scummy hate-filled POB-smashing no-lifer who regards the concept of 'fun' as an abomination to be taken out the back and shot in the head, I'd probably camp every entrance to Dublin with 2 Valors each to shoot down the Base Construction Platform before it even got into position.

After calling in my K'Hara Skypefriends to park a few permacloak Marduks around the place for me. As, y'know, insurance.

Obviously.

I don't really care about your agenda of base sieging. Nor do I care about your personal life if that matters. I just care that this server comes back to life, and for not it is just not possible with players like you. But don't take offense, even if you stop being a douche, another one or two or twenty will appear. It is kind of too late for the server.