JM|- Junker Marauders Feedback Thread.

[The CELT]

Well i do have a complain, i do not like it when "know" ships come online in tau's, Sigma's or Nagano all of a sudden a JM ship shows up.

I'll give an example: A trader connects and spawns in java, a JM is in texas and all of a sudden the JM in texas is gone and one shows up in Tau-23.

For the rest i like those guys, altough you pirate me that much

That sounds like Metagaming.

Correct me if I am wrong

[Lythrilux]

Well i do have a complain, i do not like it when "know" ships come online in tau's, Sigma's or Nagano all of a sudden a JM ship shows up.

I'll give an example: A trader connects and spawns in java, a JM is in texas and all of a sudden the JM in texas is gone and one shows up in Tau-23.

For the rest i like those guys, altough you pirate me that much

That sounds like Metagaming.

Correct me if I am wrong

Well, who doesn't use the playerlist to find interaction?

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[The CELT]

Well i do have a complain, i do not like it when "know" ships come online in tau's, Sigma's or Nagano all of a sudden a JM ship shows up.

I'll give an example: A trader connects and spawns in java, a JM is in texas and all of a sudden the JM in texas is gone and one shows up in Tau-23.

For the rest i like those guys, altough you pirate me that much

That sounds like Metagaming.

Correct me if I am wrong

Well, who doesn't use the playerlist to find interaction?

When a player changes instantly from 1 character to another common sense will indicate NO playerlist was being utilised

[Lythrilux]

Well i do have a complain, i do not like it when "know" ships come online in tau's, Sigma's or Nagano all of a sudden a JM ship shows up.

I'll give an example: A trader connects and spawns in java, a JM is in texas and all of a sudden the JM in texas is gone and one shows up in Tau-23.

For the rest i like those guys, altough you pirate me that much

That sounds like Metagaming.

Correct me if I am wrong

Well, who doesn't use the playerlist to find interaction?

When a player changes instantly from 1 character to another common sense will indicate NO playerlist was being utilised

Uh, right. Not exactly what your point is then, considering Mirdynn was referring to the use of the playerlist to know when traders are in piracy zones.

In that case, do expand upon your point as to how you believe JM is metagaming?

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[The CELT]

Well i do have a complain, i do not like it when "know" ships come online in tau's, Sigma's or Nagano all of a sudden a JM ship shows up.

I'll give an example: A trader connects and spawns in java, a JM is in texas and all of a sudden the JM in texas is gone and one shows up in Tau-23.

For the rest i like those guys, altough you pirate me that much

That sounds like Metagaming.

Correct me if I am wrong

Well, who doesn't use the playerlist to find interaction?

When a player changes instantly from 1 character to another common sense will indicate NO playerlist was being utilised

Uh, right. Not exactly what your point is then, considering Mirdynn was referring to the use of the playerlist to know when traders are in piracy zones.

In that case, do expand upon your point as to how you believe JM is metagaming?

If you were referring to the player list on discoverygc.com then using that information logging on to a character is possibly a legitimate course of action.

But when you use the player list ingame to jump from 1 character to another for the purpose of pirating in that other system I believe that is Metagaming as the other character did not know at the time there would be someone to pirate.

As Jansen wrote to me once "Metagaming is uncool"

[Lythrilux]

If you were referring to the player list on discoverygc.com then using that information logging on to a character is possibly a legitimate course of action.

I am referring to both.

But when you use the player list ingame to jump from 1 character to another for the purpose of pirating in that other system I believe that is Metagaming as the other character did not know at the time there would be someone to pirate.

You yourself may believe it is metagaming, however it is completely legitimate within the way the game works. It's just simply switching from one activity, to another activity. It's just coincidentally swapping from system x to system y with faction z. How else do you think pirates, specifically ones that do pirate in ore fields, find their targets?

As Jansen wrote to me once "Metagaming is uncool"

Indeed it is. However, in the context of the playerlist, such metagaming is acceptable because it's a fundamental way to source encounters, interactions and keeps the server active.

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[The CELT]

If you were referring to the player list on discoverygc.com then using that information logging on to a character is possibly a legitimate course of action.

I am referring to both.

But when you use the player list ingame to jump from 1 character to another for the purpose of pirating in that other system I believe that is Metagaming as the other character did not know at the time there would be someone to pirate.

You yourself may believe it is metagaming, however it is completely legitimate within the way the game works. It's just simply switching from one activity, to another activity. It's just coincidentally swapping from system x to system y with faction z. How else do you think pirates, specifically ones that do pirate in ore fields, find their targets?

As Jansen wrote to me once "Metagaming is uncool"

Indeed it is. However, in the context of the playerlist, such metagaming is acceptable because it's a fundamental way to source encounters, interactions and keeps the server active.

I'm sure you would disagree if some indie players, played this course of action against you and your faction players.

But you go ahead and keep believing it is OK in an attempt to justify your reason for this action and if it makes you feel better about yourself.

[Lythrilux]

I'm sure you would disagree if some indie players, played this course of action against you and your faction players.

Uh, people do this all the time, it's a natural part of Disco. I'm not really complaining.

But you go ahead and keep believing it is OK in an attempt to justify your reason for this action and if it makes you feel better about yourself.

Sure, don't mind if I do. I feel fine and dandy.

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[Stoner_Steve]

Hi there, I fly the Roach Coach, a vessel that your group has since reported to the RFP for smuggling, I'm complaining that out of all the time's I have met with your vessel JM|-Survey.Ship-1 it has never responded nor talked to me, but instead only takes photos. I fear that the vessel is in the early stages of LAWL syndrome due to its inability to talk.

I find it interesting that I'm able to get more Role Play from the LPI than your own group as a smuggler, but if all the JM are able to do now is sit in space taking photos I suppose there are less interesting way for a group to die off

in short, gib rp please, at the very least say "thats some naughty cargo you have" rather than me flying around assuming that a junker wouldn't be mean enough to report someone moving cardi for the outcasts.

[Lythrilux]

I find it interesting that I'm able to get more Role Play from the LPI than your own group as a smuggler, but if all the JM are able to do now is sit in space taking photos I suppose there are less interesting way for a group to die off

in short, gib rp please, at the very least say "thats some naughty cargo you have" rather than me flying around assuming that a junker wouldn't be mean enough to report someone moving cardi for the outcasts.

That's the point. Never make assumptions.

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