Look, I even turned pink off for this post, so hear me out.
So, I mean - normally, I wouldn't waste my time writing a post like this, but it's happening more and more often now, and I'm about ninety-nine percent certain that I'm not the only one who feels this way: the staff here on Discovery (particularly the administration team - more so than the moderators, certainly) inspire no confidence. Honestly, I can think of exactly four administrators that I wouldn't write off as unfit for purpose - and only a further two that I would actually feel comfortable approaching with anything.
Incidents such as this laughable incident - the post has since been edited, for those who aren't in the know - it used to contain a nonsensical reference about 'sieging this base for the sixth time', which is very interesting because that's literally impossible to have happened; this petty ego-clashing in here, where the matter of literally one day turns into a dick-waving contest, because apparently certain people have something to prove; the signature incident, where the Core| as a whole is threatened on account of (presumably) a few people getting hot under the collar about featuring in Lythrilux's 'works of art'; and countless more incidents that I can't even be bothered to dredge up, such as the infamous 'out of your ZoI' line, and the fact that a certain admin was allowed to retain his/her position despite it being pretty much an open secret that a six-month-banned player was accessing not only the forums, but the game itself, through his/her account. Personally, I would have thought it common sense to at least suspend that person's powers for the duration of the 'compromising situation', but I suppose that commodity is in short supply at the minute.
Accusations of admin bi[A]s get thrown around a lot, certainly, but I really can't help but feel that the current batch of staff command a lot less more respect than their predecessors from years ago. You can tell me this is a case of rose-tinted glasses, or 'grass-always-greener syndrome', but I still think it bears considering. Even worse, the usual dissenting voices yell about it so much that I believe it's only having two effects: one, the people in question brush it off as 'haha more bias accusations again, eh?'; and two, that the increasingly pressured people in question feel the need to 'clamp down', and exert their authority in ever more an ever more increasingly mismanaged and heavy-handed manner.
I mean, when we seem to live in a Disco climate where exasperating (yet ultimately unsurprising) errors by our administration team are the norm, rather than one where competent handling is not only expected but required, I think it bears thinking about.
To bring the recent [HF] sanction (albeit one that was quickly reverted) up for a second: an entire faction was Bastilled based off what looks like the word of mouth of either one player or a small certain group of players, replete with mythological claims of 'six dead bases' and 'ooRP grudges towards a certain member' - and, of course, the two names Tal and Jayce cropping up again. As to why sieging a Junker-run PoB inside Xeno ZoI on a Xeno Roc is a sanctionable offense - of course, that isn't explained. Instead, the post will likely be retroactively and silently edited once again - just like it was with reference to the 'sixth time killed' statement.
I'm rambling here - and wasting my time, no doubt - so I'll close with just one last thing. While it certainly wouldn't help as much as fixing the root of the issue (is calling for a vote of no confidence a little too dramatic? What about suggesting the entire staff team be wiped and re-elected by the community from scratch, like the old days?), something that wouldn't go amiss amidst the constant foul-ups and mistakes left in our staff's wake is the occasional apology - or, failing that, some transparency.
You know - a simple "we messed up, and we're sorry". I think that might be nice, especially backed up with a "here's what went wrong, why it went wrong, and here's why it won't go wrong again". Much of the problem here is that everything the admins do, they do behind closed doors - nobody really seems to think that cluing the community as a whole into what's going on is a good thing. Instead, we should presumably be grateful to be lorded over 24/7 by a supposedly infallible, yet utterly, utterly flawed group of people, and take everything they say as gospel truth. Unfortunately, events continue to show that even if everyone whose name in green was a paradigm of neutrality, free of all bias (yeah, right), there would still be massive issues regarding profound lacking of understanding of many of the issues that they feel compelled to tackle.
Finally - the administrators get a lot of stick, yes. I know this, they know this (oh, how they harp on about it!) - everyone knows it. I won't deny that. What I am surprised about is how unjustified they feel it is. From my perspective, I'd say the criticism levelled at them is justified more often than not, even if it does bruise a few egos. I don't think anyone could objectively look at the most glaring incidents of misjudgement - both very recent and less recent - and say that they were handled well at all.
95% of the people who post on the forum suck, so admins will always suck too.
What is needed is a system that works even when admins suck. That can only work if admins are allowed to be criticized openly, where all evidence can be presented openly, without fear of censorship and retribution from vengenful and hypocritical admins.
And yeah, your perception that they were any better years ago is a case of pink glasses and grass greener on the other side, and of you not knowing what was really going behind the scenes because of extreme censorship, fearmongering, and propaganda from the side of the admins.
EDIT: btw ally, the editor is much better now, but looks like it takes away blank lines which would serve the purpose to make the post easier to read when you try to re-edit your post.
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I agree with everything you said, and i would like to vote for such as well. I've been where Tal and Jayce are but i don't wanna talk about it, it's in the past now. Clearly this is going out of control and to be honest, they will get nowhere with such.
But as you said, we're just wasting our time asking for things like this. It will just go through one ear and exit by the other. It the same old story.
(03-01-2015, 06:13 PM)Carter Wrote: I agree with everything you said
But as you said, we're just wasting our time asking for things like this. It will just go through one ear and exit by the other. It the same old story.
You and your kind should be banned off this server for long time ... better be perm
Metagamers like you and Tal and Jayce and others are the cause of why people have troubles here
and you are not brave enough to do it even in the right RP style
so you are just fake and stop CRYING ,,,, actually admins didnt do what they need to do with you so far and ur kind which is PERM ban ... to rest the server from sick people like you
get lost
and stop posting your moanings on the forums.
From my own experience and talks of other disco players, confidence in admins is all-time low. The rift is increasing everyday. So I have to agree with Omicega.
(03-01-2015, 06:27 PM)Xenon Wrote: You and your kind should be banned off this server for long time ... better be perm
Metagamers like you and Tal and Jayce and others are the cause of why people have troubles here
and you are not brave enough to do it even in the right RP style
so you are just fake and stop CRYING ,,,, actually admins didnt do what they need to do with you so far and ur kind which is PERM ban ... to rest the server from sick people like you
get lost
and stop posting your moanings on the forums.
If you can't keep your posts constructive, civil, and on topic, please don't post at all. I'd prefer if this thread stayed open, rather than devolving into a flame war.
(03-01-2015, 06:27 PM)Xenon Wrote: You and your kind should be banned off this server for long time ... better be perm
Metagamers like you and Tal and Jayce and others are the cause of why people have troubles here
and you are not brave enough to do it even in the right RP style
so you are just fake and stop CRYING ,,,, actually admins didnt do what they need to do with you so far and ur kind which is PERM ban ... to rest the server from sick people like you
get lost
and stop posting your moanings on the forums.
Let's ban whole server because you lost a base?! As far as I know, whole HF was sanctioned because of TWO people saying things in GROUP CHAT, not because you lost base. And if you have a feeling there is some kind of metagaming then post a SANCTION REPORT?