The reason people RP furries is because Roleplay is a huge part of the furry fandom. I would describe it as 45% porn drawings, 45% roleplay and 10% other stuff people would find weird.
It is not an oddity that Disco attracts furries, because of the size of the overall RP-orientated population they make up.
That being said, there is no excuse. I personally have posted ads for Disco in Furry sites in the past, but was careful to mention to keep anthropomorphic art and references to any non-freelancer lore material especially when it comes to species out of it.
Obviously, that only is a warning people see if they were introduced to Disco by that thread. As mentioned above, people will find this place in other ways as well and many of them will be furries.
I can tell you why people want to do it. Because roleplaying a non-human character is what they do and what comes most natural. Those are the characters they have used in both sexual and non-sexual forum and chat RP and find easiest to control. However, this is just something I personally could suggest these people not to do, regardless of what sort of excuse they want to use for such a choice.
Many will use the ''oh people are just haters'' card, because it is the easiest. However it all comes down to respect towards the source material - that Freelancer contained no such characters and neither they should. If you want a game RP platform to play such characters, check out private WoW RP Servers, which are much more lenient towards anthropomorphic characters.
Nobody cares about what comes easier to you to roleplay. There are specific community rules and guidelines that you must adapt to and the one here is that anthropomorphs are not a part of Freelancer and they should not be. If you fail to understand this, you will at best - be ignored by the roleplay population just out of spite and worse - be made fun of, hunted down and removed from the community by force.
EDIT: It should be noted in the community rules that roleplay must meet guidelines set by the source material, specifically regarding species. Though I am afraid that once you start weeding out furries and other human experiments, we can also argue whether androids or AI should also be binned along the way.
EDIT: This topic came up in TS some time ago this year, where two other furfegs were present. It was mostly agreed that furry RP on the forum and ingame is cringe-worthy and represents either outright disregard for standards set by the community or might even be done just to piss people off. Or to get attention.
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Simply put, It might be alright to RP Furries, but you've picked the wrong universe and RP environment to satisfy your Furry Fandom. TERA or some other MMORPG might work for you.
RPinga Furry in Disco is, directly or not, enforcing your RP and character as a Furry (and non-canon RP) as part of the universe which is very distrubing.
I don't believe Furries are any different than Bronies, so they should probably face the same fate.
Yes in the universe of disco there is no mention of furries. Then someone comes in with a random life-form that is an animal that can talk and they want it to be ok?
It is the same if I start making slime people or rock people. :|
I grew up a youngster almost exclusively with Nintendo consoles with games like Starfox and (to a lesser extent) Banjo Kazooie and with a brother who was a religious supporter of the Lion King movies. I grew up growing to love anthromorphised characters more than I cared about the people around me (boo hoo scourgie didn't have friends.) Eventually I got over this and actually found some human beings I can kinda consider living creatures that are worth bearing, but it's always a case of "we love the things that were nice to us when nobody else was"-- and it's the exact same reason I've already pre-ordered the new Starfox pretty much the day I was able.
Now, this is more or less the reason I got into the whole furry-thing but I wouldn't consider myself anywhere near as big a furry as most others: I can appreciate it from the perspective as an artistic choice because it just feels more emotive to me than normal boring human beings with a far more limited range of expressions, but I'm not running around in fursuits or wearing cat-ears for fun or because "I'm an animal in a human's body" or whatever; a lot of that feels as alien to me as it does your average person. Like I said, I'm only in it for some of the arts, and even then I'm picky as all get out.
To bring the topic train back around: we all know Discovery is an environment based on the Freelancer universe and last time I checked: Trent didn't have any missions wherein he had to seduce some panda-chick to get information on the Order and the only mention of anything remotely close is a easter-egg joke faction and planet in the form of Primus and the Ape-people. Freelancer is an environment of to a modern-day society pinned to the lapel of a sci-fi setting that also happens to have aliens. Anthropomorphic animals just really don't have a place in the disco-environment and honestly are just never gonna fly. There's a time and a place for everything and Disco is just a place that will never accept anthro characters, and that's 100% alright.
If it doesn't fit into the disco universe then it doesn't bloody fit in the disco universe, this incessant need to force something down someone's throat because "its a thing I like therefore everyone else HAS to like it" is the same mentality that utterly infuriates me whenever I hear a brony shouting their obsession to the heavens and proclaiming it as the second coming of Jesus/Cthulhu. Why then are we having now a similar problem with furry characters?
This leads me into the second problem I have with this fad of forcefully shoving furries into disco's already bloated and messy continuity:
This is an RP community. Surely the point of RP is to enact the fantasies of interpersonal character conflicts and drama, be it on a macro or individual scale; that is to say: Characters interacting with other characters. So why then are we not making characters with actual Character behind them?
To clarify: Characters are the culmination of emotions, experiences and mannerisms that make up the personalities of a living being. They are the persona behind the person, and while Disco as a whole fails at this rather regularly with painfully strong-armed in self-insert ego-strokes that pass as "characters" (were all guilty of it to an extent), this forceful inclusion of furry characters only ever seems to be done for their own sake. It's never to introduce everyone to a new and fresh idea for a personality rather than the endless streams of tropes and stock-characters disco has floating around, these furry characters don't seem to actually have personality, and only have the fluffiness because the creator just wanted to have a bathroom rug talk in place of a human being. Like I said, it's for it's own sake, never to enrich us in any way, and it's just utterly infuriating to see this being done.
Surely if someone had a character they truly wanted to share the only restrictions would be their own ability to convey it. The excuse that "this character wouldn't work as anything but a fox-man" is a telltale sign of the user being unable to grasp the concept of a character to begin with. If you made a character right, you should be able to adapt their struggles and conflicts to whatever medium you place them in to better fit the universe at hand. Every single forced-furry character I've been exposed to could have just as easily been made human with absolutely no change needed to their personalities and with nothing lost. " So why then are they a furry to begin with? " You may ask-- and I did the same and the only response I've ever gotten was: "oh, because I wanted to."
The mentality of "because I wanted to" is the main reason these characters get persecuted the way they do in Discovery (for the most part). If there are truly personas that discovery's furry population wish to play as then they can just as easily be adapted to being human as they can be to being adapted to the disco universe-- because guess what: Furries aren't a part of the disco universe.
I understand the desire experience the concept of anthro characters, but unfortunately Discovery just isn't the place for it. If a sci-fi furry setting is something somebody wants then there are probably hundreds of other RP communities out there that would fit a lot better. I would really really like it if we could shelve this whole issue and go back to whining about Zoner capital vessels.
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1) Only humans and robots should be allowed to RP as.
2) Nomads should be silent assassins with the exception for infected people.
3) Both furries and anime should be forbidden
I agree with scourge, although his last sentence irritates me a bit. We can shelve this issue once people stop RPing furries on discovery, because that's causing the issue - not talking about it.
I wouldn't mind having cat ears and a fluffy tail.
Personally, I'll ignore most furry RP unless the character shows the personality hallmarks that an ostracised entity would. That is to say, if I see a furry character fully integrated with society and expecting to be treated like a normal person, I'd ignore it. If, however, there's a furry roleplaying all the hallmarks of somebody who is different and can't hide it (suffering from racism, depression, subjugation, being forced to hide their true nature, etc), then i'm more empathetic. Unfortunately, I've never seen the second way, thanks to SMI-Fox for example - a player who's furry characters existed because of "reasons" that were never adequately explained except for "BECAUSE THE LSF/LN/ALASKA/EXPERIMENTS". Most furries I've seen have been like this, acting as if they're fully integrated with society and expecting to be treated as such.
For me, the problem isn't the presence of furries, it's how they're portrayed by the people who choose to roleplay them. I suspect that the reason others feel so strongly about this issue is because furry characters show absolutely no adaptation to their situation in the discovery universe, with no accounting for the barbarism of (for example) racial slurs that occur between people of the same species every day on our planet. Under the assumption that human nature wont change substantially in the next 1000 years (as it hasn't changed substantially in the last 1000 years), we can safely assume that any intelligent creatures of a different species than Homo Sapiens Sapiens will be treated with even more contempt by the rest of us. If people are lynched for the colour of their skin, you can pretty much guarantee a worse fate to some individuals if they aren't even human.
If you RP like there are serious social problems that your character faces, I'm game for your furry RP.
Lets be honest, we're all here pretending to be something we're not. I don't think we should lose sight of that. Some things are outlandish and improbable, but our reality today has many things that people would never even dream of in the not-too-distant past.
@Sonja I only met one person who did that kinda successfully... but then later turned weird so im like NOPE and moved on.
Edit: Should be my @nOmnomnOm account. Damn it!
But... it was kinda to do with my char in AFC so ye...
(03-16-2016, 05:25 PM)Sonja Wrote: I wouldn't mind having cat ears and a fluffy tail.
Personally, I'll ignore most furry RP unless the character shows the personality hallmarks that an ostracised entity would. That is to say, if I see a furry character fully integrated with society and expecting to be treated like a normal person, I'd ignore it. If, however, there's a furry roleplaying all the hallmarks of somebody who is different and can't hide it (suffering from racism, depression, subjugation, being forced to hide their true nature, etc), then i'm more empathetic. Unfortunately, I've never seen the second way, thanks to SMI-Fox for example - a player who's furry characters existed because of "reasons" that were never adequately explained except for "BECAUSE THE LSF/LN/ALASKA/EXPERIMENTS". Most furries I've seen have been like this, acting as if they're fully integrated with society and expecting to be treated as such.
For me, the problem isn't the presence of furries, it's how they're portrayed by the people who choose to roleplay them. I suspect that the reason others feel so strongly about this issue is because furry characters show absolutely no adaptation to their situation in the discovery universe, with no accounting for the barbarism of (for example) racial slurs that occur between people of the same species every day on our planet. Under the assumption that human nature wont change substantially in the next 1000 years (as it hasn't changed substantially in the last 1000 years), we can safely assume that any intelligent creatures of a different species than Homo Sapiens Sapiens will be treated with even more contempt by the rest of us. If people are lynched for the colour of their skin, you can pretty much guarantee a worse fate to some individuals if they aren't even human.
If you RP like there are serious social problems that your character faces, I'm game for your furry RP.
Lets be honest, we're all here pretending to be something we're not. I don't think we should lose sight of that. Some things are outlandish and improbable, but our reality today has many things that people would never even dream of in the not-too-distant past.
Lets not be too judgmental.
I agree. Whilst I am not a fan of the furry fandom, it'd at least be a bit easier if they weren't forced into the roleplay enviroment but such 'alien' creatures would be treated as alien and persecuted by for who they are by the rest of Sirius.
The problem there though is such RP is mutual and requires the community to accept the furry character itself.
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