The Docking Ring thread

[Lythrilux]

Welp, you just said that Nomads did not make sense in vanilla because they were incomplete if we are making parallels with what you said about the rings. Incomplete =/= not making sense Lyth, incomplete =/= not canon, Lyth. That's the thing, Hispanic Docking Rings are canon and making sense, I already see nice explanation with the LH in this thread. Probably hispanic rings should have an original design and be a part of original Hispanic tech.

And perhaps they didn't make sense. Digital Anvil are by no means lore masters. There's really little backing up the Hispania Docking Rings. They're just placeholders, and it's by time that in our mod we finally fix the issue.

And actually tbh I think it's not too hard to believe the Toledo Docking Ring could have been constructed by sympathetics within Ageira to The Order. This was at the point when Order was not seen as a major terrorist organization.

But seriously. From a thread "You can't do that" we move into Ageira "can't have it" (it = monopoly).

My solution is rather simple.

Lawfuls must obtain Docking Rings from Ageira Technologies for safety precautions for general civilian population.

Unlawfuls can build planetary outpost and attempt planetary landing ( http://i.imgur.com/COX2crg.png ) with "enforced ship hulls".

Quasi-Lawfuls can choose method that fits more with diplomacy ( For example, GMG would use Docking Rings, while Junkers would use outpost )

This is pretty much it.

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[Mephistoles]

what a good thread

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[Sombs]

Wait, let me ask something Snak3 will not like:

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Jump Gate and Trade Lane Parts

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Jump Gate and Trade Lane Parts are exclusively manufactured at the Ageira Technologies facility in the Colorado system and are delivered to individual construction sites as necessary. These components are sealed in scanner-proof, tamper-proof white boxes that can only be opened with complex biometric keys. The boxes are also designed to detonate if opened outside of an authorized facility. Additional security measures are confidential, but Ageira has never failed to recover a missing white box.

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Pueblo Station is the main Ageira Trade Lane and Gate component manufacturing plant. It has been in operation for centuries, but much of it's interior is still a very closely guarded secret. Components only leave the secured sections in "Whiteboxes", secure containers with an elaborate locking mechanism set to destroy its contents if any form of tampering is detected. To date, no white box is known to ever have been compromised - but to keep up with innovations, Ageira continues to refine their design, and holds an annual "Crack the Whitebox" contest to see how the boxes stand up to Liberty's finest rogues. Security around Pueblo is tight. The Lane Hackers frequently attack the facility, but their attacks are more a disruption then a serious threat to Pueblo. Rogue fighters have also on occasion threatened the facility, but aside from a major incident in 800 A.S., their attacks seem mostly focused on seizing cargo they can use. Notice: All ships should be aware that Ageira Technologies facilities are protected by private security authorized to use deadly force against any deviation from standard flight procedures.

So that's the statements that say it's impossible to build gate without Ageiras cooperation. Who wrote these infocards and when? Are these from 800 A.S. or are they still to be seen as current?

Maybe it's the info cards that need to be updated, since I don't believe the vanilla game is entirely wrong, giving Toledo, Malta and Crete docking rings. What's the current year in Discovery? Right, so why shouldn't anyone in the meantime have found a way to open earlier aquired white boxes? Think of those infocards as possible propaganda.

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[Shiki]

And perhaps they didn't make sense. Digital Anvil are by no means lore masters. There's really little backing up the Hispania Docking Rings. They're just placeholders, and it's by time that in our mod we finally fix the issue.

And actually tbh I think it's not too hard to believe the Toledo Docking Ring could have been constructed by sympathetics within Ageira to The Order. This was at the point when Order was not seen as a major terrorist organization.

Bah, well dude, if we are speaking game mechanics and the 'placeholders' rings are the lame thing that was made just to avoid of making proper land on the surface. 'Dock' with the planet, that even sounds lamy. But the fact is the rings were existing in vanilla and they are existing in disco. If you are not satisfied with the current state of things and wish to make proper lore behind it, you are welcome, I doubt someone will stop you.

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[wanderer95]

I see why no reason "landing thrusters" are not feasible to slow down a ships landing onto a planet.

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[SnakThree]

Wait, let me ask something Snak3 will not like:

So that's the statements that say it's impossible to build gate without Ageiras cooperation. Who wrote these infocards and when? Are these from 800 A.S. or are they still to be seen as current?

Maybe it's the info cards that need to be updated, since I don't believe the vanilla game is entirely wrong, giving Toledo, Malta and Crete docking rings. What's the current year in Discovery? Right, so why shouldn't anyone in the meantime have found a way to open earlier aquired white boxes? Think of those infocards as possible propaganda.

I actually love that you asked this. Because there is no vanila lore that explains Docking Rings outside of Ageira's grasp. Infocards can be pulled from vanilla and they will state the same.

"Jump Gate and Trade Lane Parts are exclusively manufactured at the Ageira Technologies facility in the Colorado system and are delivered to individual construction sites as necessary. These components are sealed in scanner-proof, tamper-proof white boxes that can only be opened with complex biometric keys. The boxes are also designed to detonate if opened outside of an authorized facility. Additional security measures are confidential, but Ageira has never failed to recover a missing white box."

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[gafwmn]

Ok. Then exactly WHO would be in charge of deciding who does , and who does not get access to this tech ?......and the first one who says Ageira gets dinozzo'ed.

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[HassLHoFF™]

Wait, let me ask something Snak3 will not like:

So that's the statements that say it's impossible to build gate without Ageiras cooperation. Who wrote these infocards and when? Are these from 800 A.S. or are they still to be seen as current?

Maybe it's the info cards that need to be updated, since I don't believe the vanilla game is entirely wrong, giving Toledo, Malta and Crete docking rings. What's the current year in Discovery? Right, so why shouldn't anyone in the meantime have found a way to open earlier aquired white boxes? Think of those infocards as possible propaganda.

I actually love that you asked this. Because there is no vanila lore that explains Docking Rings outside of Ageira's grasp. Infocards can be pulled from vanilla and they will state the same.

"Jump Gate and Trade Lane Parts are exclusively manufactured at the Ageira Technologies facility in the Colorado system and are delivered to individual construction sites as necessary. These components are sealed in scanner-proof, tamper-proof white boxes that can only be opened with complex biometric keys. The boxes are also designed to detonate if opened outside of an authorized facility. Additional security measures are confidential, but Ageira has never failed to recover a missing white box."

Well, not impossible, but pretty unrealistic lore in my opinion.

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[Sombs]

"Ageira has never failed to recover a missing white box."

Wasn't there even a ship wreck in Texas that told us the opposite in vanilla?

Edit: Also in Hokkaido and Magellan

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[The Savage]

And actually tbh I think it's not too hard to believe the Toledo Docking Ring could have been constructed by sympathetics within Ageira to The Order.

That is why I still point out Lane Hacker group, which is mainly ex-Ageiras. Why? Two reasons:

First being the fact that original Lane Hackers seemingly were not involved into whole Corsair-Outcast Feud and had no unlawful enemies (except for Xenos, who hate everyone). Hell, despite their presence in Shikoku and Manchester, neither Hogosha nor Gaians were not hostile to them - check the original repsheets from vanillia.

Second is the fact that there's a hint that The Order maintained ties with both Outcasts and Liberty Rogues, so why Lane Hackers - best of the best when it comes to Libertonian tech knowledge - should not be tied to The Order as well?

These two said, it seems Lane Hackers are the only Libertonian faction (aside of Junkers), which were not involved into whole aforementioned Corsair-Outcast Feud, despite having ties with Liberty Rogues and Outcasts - being "these shadowy high-tech guys", which simply had a common goal with the first two. My point again? Lane Hackers might have been, alike to Junkers, using their neutrality and/or lack of direct contact to do deals with other guys, given they are the only ones able to erase digital footprints from Neural Net.