WE DID IT REDDIT!!!

[Cælumaresh]

Lately Core has been known to do nasty things inside the NFZ, especially to the Freeport and it's defenders. Hagbard has also felt the effect of such, being the initial victim of that ominous encounter in which later the Persephone nullified one of Core's ships for example. What did you expect? And then you can't really say Delta is so small there isn't much room left for Core outside the NFZ. Sure he was threatening, but defensively, not offensively unlike how Core tends to roll.

Also, complaints about TAZ behavior could just as well end up in the TAZ feedback thread, I guess there is one. This one is for Core as far as I know.

Hey Thyrzul, its seems you dont really know the full story and accusing Core of being openly aggressive and acting offensively, but is that really the case?

Is it really the story that Core shot at zoners/fp11 first or did something else happen before that? Maybe there was another trigger to all this?

Well let me tell you there was a trigger prior to the Core bombardment of Freeport 11 and I can tell you right now that it was the Zoners that shot first not us.

It was my mako that was destroyed by the zoners and order before FP11 was attacked.


Trigger:
The night of the fp11 attack I had undocked from FP11 after seeing that the Order had amassed a fleet under the command of golanski who were going to attack the Core.

Thats fine but for me it was not since I had undocked form FP11 and all the core ships were at yaren, so I set course for Yaren but was intercepted by an order cruiser who was CDing me thus allowing the other order ships to catch up and try to gank me.

Usual tactics that occur on disco you might say, fine we all gank but its what happened next that was the spark of this whole conflict.

Since being intercepted by an order cruiser and realizing that golanskis gank squad were coming to finish me off. I decided to turn back and flee to towards FP11.

When I got close to FP11 I did not engage anyone and the resident Zoner Juggernaut and cruiser that were camping outside FP11 told me to move away from the NFZ and not to dock on the Freeport or they would destroy me.

During this whole time the Order| were inside the NFZ firing on my ship but the zoners did not engage them instead they shot at me since that is what everyone else was doing.

So given the hostile zoner actions against my ship which did not engage theirs but failed to shoot the order NFZ violators, What does that tell you about who is really to blame for this conflict?

Given in that instance Zoners decided to ally with the Order against my Core ship, without any previous provocation from me towards the zoners, tells me Core had a very real inRP justification to openly attack zoner ships afterward and bombard FP11.

Suddenly the Zoners were not Neutral anymore and Core simply reacted to that, so please get all your facts before you start making autonomous assumptions that we are to blame!!!

Seeing as you have zero idea what your even talking about, allow me correct you
A Core member lost cigars to a Zoner and then demanded and threatened stuff would happen if she didn't give them over....oh wait, thats it. I pardon if you don't understand the RP backing to this one Widow, this has nothing to do with anything even closely related to you but your welcome to believe that. Now I ask that unless you read up on the RP, you back away from here as you clearly have no idea on the backing to this entire thing

I was shot at by zoners before the cigar rp and the bombardment of FP11, it may not be directly related but I was shot at by zoners first. Core did not fire the first shot!

I was there so please dont attempt to discredit my witness account of the events of that night. BECAUSE I WAS THERE

Prior to that night there were no previous hostilities between the Core and Zoners. Zoners opened up on my ship as I fled the initial wave of order ships that had gathered in delta.

I was there aswell Widow, the entire night. I saw it happen with my own eyes.
Please stop spreading bullcrap.. kthx

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This Galaxy is vast; its wonders and beauty are almost unfathomable. But the galaxy also hides dark secrets, some of which have lain dormant since the beginning of time itself. There is a danger in secrets, both in seeking and in knowing. Some things are meant to be hidden from view. Some mysteries defy understanding, and sometimes even the things we think we know are untrue. Some secrets should remain untouched.

Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum

[Grumblesaur]

Q: Why does The Core sometimes speak in Latin?
A: The Romans saw Latin as the 'Language of Power'. I think that is very fitting given the behaviour of Core.

Actually, the Romans just saw it as their language, because that's what they spoke and wrote.

Also, you should call your pipe dream empire "Imperium Omicronium" because "Imperium Omicronia" mismatches gender agreement between the adjective and noun, so long as you mean "The Omicronian Empire". If you mean the translation to be more along the lines of "The Empire of Omicron", then you should probably use "Imperium Omicronis".

If you're going to do the Latin thing, you could at least put ten minutes of grammatical research into it.

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A way a lone a last a loved a long the riverrun, past Eve and Adam's, from swerve of shore to bend of bay,
brings us by a commodius vicus of recirculation back to Howth Castle and Environs.

[Black Widow]

Lately Core has been known to do nasty things inside the NFZ, especially to the Freeport and it's defenders. Hagbard has also felt the effect of such, being the initial victim of that ominous encounter in which later the Persephone nullified one of Core's ships for example. What did you expect? And then you can't really say Delta is so small there isn't much room left for Core outside the NFZ. Sure he was threatening, but defensively, not offensively unlike how Core tends to roll.

Also, complaints about TAZ behavior could just as well end up in the TAZ feedback thread, I guess there is one. This one is for Core as far as I know.

Hey Thyrzul, its seems you dont really know the full story and accusing Core of being openly aggressive and acting offensively, but is that really the case?

Is it really the story that Core shot at zoners/fp11 first or did something else happen before that? Maybe there was another trigger to all this?

Well let me tell you there was a trigger prior to the Core bombardment of Freeport 11 and I can tell you right now that it was the Zoners that shot first not us.

It was my mako that was destroyed by the zoners and order before FP11 was attacked.


Trigger:
The night of the fp11 attack I had undocked from FP11 after seeing that the Order had amassed a fleet under the command of golanski who were going to attack the Core.

Thats fine but for me it was not since I had undocked form FP11 and all the core ships were at yaren, so I set course for Yaren but was intercepted by an order cruiser who was CDing me thus allowing the other order ships to catch up and try to gank me.

Usual tactics that occur on disco you might say, fine we all gank but its what happened next that was the spark of this whole conflict.

Since being intercepted by an order cruiser and realizing that golanskis gank squad were coming to finish me off. I decided to turn back and flee to towards FP11.

When I got close to FP11 I did not engage anyone and the resident Zoner Juggernaut and cruiser that were camping outside FP11 told me to move away from the NFZ and not to dock on the Freeport or they would destroy me.

During this whole time the Order| were inside the NFZ firing on my ship but the zoners did not engage them instead they shot at me since that is what everyone else was doing.

So given the hostile zoner actions against my ship which did not engage theirs but failed to shoot the order NFZ violators, What does that tell you about who is really to blame for this conflict?

Given in that instance Zoners decided to ally with the Order against my Core ship, without any previous provocation from me towards the zoners, tells me Core had a very real inRP justification to openly attack zoner ships afterward and bombard FP11.

Suddenly the Zoners were not Neutral anymore and Core simply reacted to that, so please get all your facts before you start making autonomous assumptions that we are to blame!!!

Seeing as you have zero idea what your even talking about, allow me correct you
A Core member lost cigars to a Zoner and then demanded and threatened stuff would happen if she didn't give them over....oh wait, thats it. I pardon if you don't understand the RP backing to this one Widow, this has nothing to do with anything even closely related to you but your welcome to believe that. Now I ask that unless you read up on the RP, you back away from here as you clearly have no idea on the backing to this entire thing

I was shot at by zoners before the cigar rp and the bombardment of FP11, it may not be directly related but I was shot at by zoners first. Core did not fire the first shot!

I was there so please dont attempt to discredit my witness account of the events of that night. BECAUSE I WAS THERE

Prior to that night there were no previous hostilities between the Core and Zoners. Zoners opened up on my ship as I fled the initial wave of order ships that had gathered in delta.

I was there aswell Widow, the entire night. I saw it happen with my own eyes.
Please stop spreading bullcrap.. kthx

I am sorry your opinion of me is irrelevant and will continue as such!

[WesternPeregrine]

It was my mako that was destroyed by the zoners and order before FP11 was attacked.


Trigger:
The night of the fp11 attack I had undocked from FP11 after seeing that the Order had amassed a fleet under the command of golanski who were going to attack the Core.

Thats fine but for me it was not since I had undocked form FP11 and all the core ships were at yaren, so I set course for Yaren but was intercepted by an order cruiser who was CDing me thus allowing the other order ships to catch up and try to gank me.

Usual tactics that occur on disco you might say, fine we all gank but its what happened next that was the spark of this whole conflict.

Since being intercepted by an order cruiser and realizing that golanskis gank squad were coming to finish me off. I decided to turn back and flee to towards FP11.

When I got close to FP11 I did not engage anyone and the resident Zoner Juggernaut and cruiser that were camping outside FP11 told me to move away from the NFZ and not to dock on the Freeport or they would destroy me.

During this whole time the Order| were inside the NFZ firing on my ship but the zoners did not engage them instead they shot at me since that is what everyone else was doing.

So given the hostile zoner actions against my ship which did not engage theirs but failed to shoot the order NFZ violators, What does that tell you about who is really to blame for this conflict?

Given in that instance Zoners decided to ally with the Order against my Core ship, without any previous provocation from me towards the zoners, tells me Core had a very real inRP justification to openly attack zoner ships afterward and bombard FP11.

Suddenly the Zoners were not Neutral anymore and Core simply reacted to that, so please get all your facts straight before you start making autonomous assumptions that we are to blame, which is what you usually do anyway.

Like a bull in a china shop!!!

Well, reading all that, I guess you need to review the workings of the Laws of the Confederation of Freeports, for you were the first violator of said set of laws. (if going legalese- Section 3, section 7, section 9)

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so please get all your facts straight

Like a bull in a china shop!!!

technically Mythbusters confirmed bulls wont break china shop stuff.


Also I in general like how Core treated the event, even though it was a bit much at times and there were complaints and also complaints on the other side.
In the end you survived the chaos and it was fun smuggling into Delta

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[Cælumaresh]

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Tex

I was there aswell Widow, the entire night. I saw it happen with my own eyes.
Please stop spreading bullcrap.. kthx

I am sorry your opinion of me is irrelevant and will continue as such!

I really dont care what you think of me. But if you try to put people in its place at least tell the truth

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This Galaxy is vast; its wonders and beauty are almost unfathomable. But the galaxy also hides dark secrets, some of which have lain dormant since the beginning of time itself. There is a danger in secrets, both in seeking and in knowing. Some things are meant to be hidden from view. Some mysteries defy understanding, and sometimes even the things we think we know are untrue. Some secrets should remain untouched.

Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum

[Darku]

a new drama from the fury guy !!

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Just smoke and fly.

[Thyrzul]

Black Widow, knowing you I'm not surprised people are more keen to shoot you than anyone else, you kinda tend to hand out reasons for that for free, but knowing you I'm also not convinced that everything you speak is pure truth. Oh and apparently isn't as relevant as you may think...

But as I earlier said:

Obviously everybody is just defending themselves, because it's always the other side initiating the attack, right?

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[GuapMan]

Honestly if you have a problem with widow then take it somewhere else, this is a faction feedback thread, things like what you just said seem like you are trying to single out that one person.

[Thyrzul]

Honestly if you have a problem with widow then take it somewhere else, this is a faction feedback thread, things like what you just said seem like you are trying to single out that one person.

Let me translate it to faction feedback then: in my opinion having such persons within the faction is likely to compromise it by causing harm to it's public image. Though after the recent Zoner vs Core drama, I'm more and more in doubt about whether there is still anything left to be ruined or not. Maybe BW isn't the only one to ruin Core's image either.

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