Admin Decision on the Banned Six

[Ayman]

well said and well done and fair enough.

Lythrilux and Karst stay banned, they were considered to be harmful to a level that we just can not allow on the server.

I wish to ask that in the future maybe 2nd chance would be even more than what shall be expected from admins ? and would be very nice ? since we all want to have fun and enjoy the game we all love ? but.......

This is the final decision on this matter, further discussions regarding it will not be had.

I respect the admins discussions and i hope in the future you guys maybe will change your mind if they decide to apologize for whatever they did and admit it not with just words with action as well.

By the end of the day its a game that we enjoy and a way to get out of the life stress and problems

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User was banned for: Compromised account.
Time left: (Permanent)

[Vendetta]

-1 I think that Karst should be unbanned due to his part in running factions

Leading a faction isn't merit to be unbanned. If it was deserved, they made their mind up about it. I'm still a little shocked though.


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In regards to the statement, about damn time. Now the devs can stop their dumb strike and go back to working on the game. So much for the final version being out this summer, huh?

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[Char Aznable]

I disagree with this decision. You have given in to the demands of the public, and while I agree with most people that the bans were badly executed, giving in to the community outcry has, once again, undermined the authority of the greens.

But still. Let's move on now, please.

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#notmyfrankfurt

[Operator]

- The Dev strike:
You are free to keep working on the Mod if you want to do so, should you decide to keep your "strike" up and decide to stop working on the Mod then please notify us to put you back into the standard member group as you do not require access to the Dev forums any longer. You will be given 2 weeks to make your mind up on this.

it's happening

[Ichiru]

Post from Lythrilux, this does not represent the views of the Ichiru corporation ™ or it's affiliates.

Nothing has changed.

The fact that the Staff have issued a punishment to the 6 still shows that they feel entirely justified about the process of 'A Heavy Decision'. A punishment is a punishment, no matter the severity, and it still sends the clear message that the root of all the trouble spawned from this ordeal lies within the Staff and the process they use. 2 members still banned and 4 are probated? They still feel justified in their decision.

You've banned me and Karst because you think we're harmful, toxic and detrimental to the server. Our contributions aside, let’s keep things general. Hell even if it was just some randomer who got hit or my worst enemy I’d still argue for their case. Throughout this entire debacle the Staff have remained very coy as to why any of the 6 actually are so terribly detrimental to the community. Even when given evidence (for those that were able to get it at least) we weren't even told WHY we were detrimental or given any actual reason for the banned. And as Garrett said in his story that was a commentary on the past month, the pathetic evidence that we do have to justify our bans is scrapings from the bottom of the barrel. Whilst some of the Staff did post some 'examples', they were very reluctant to link them to any of the 6 players and I greatly question the validity of those examples in any event - that they were not just personal viewpoints.

If the intent here is to ban players and hope that they reform by the time they are unbanned, how are they supposed to know how to improve their behaviour if they staff keep those very reasons shrouded in secrecy and seclusion? The staff should be practising a 'tough love', not swooping down onto unsuspecting community members and then dropping them out of the sky with no idea what led to that outcome.

And furthermore for the next time you wish to enact this extremely maverick behaviour against members of the community you say you'll give them a public warning and outline why their behaviour is bad. Why are none of the 6 entitled to this warning? As I said we have no idea what makes us harmful.

So let's wake up and collectively smell the piss-flavoured coffee. This entire manoeuvre was an effort by the Staff to simply ban players they did not like personally. We have seen damning evidence that supports large amounts of bias against some of the 6 leading up to this decision. The posts by some of the Staff in the past months are leaning very closely towards this as well. And I think it's extremely disgusting how the Staff has been, with great effort, pushing their opinions in an attempt to try to demonize the six banned players and turn their friends and other community members against them. Whilst not directly, I would pin the actions of @Laz that lead to his ban to this very behaviour.

All in all this announcement has made no progress. Yet again, the Staff are pulling wool over the community's eyes in hopes that they'll just roll over and let them continue using the green name in the wrong manner. The brown-nosers are going to just rush forth onto this post and ignore this gross conduct, in hopes that they'll land a Staff position someday themselves and the cycle of people pushing their personal agendas in front of safeguarding the health of the community will continue. It's sad. And I'm sure the Staff will try and write this post off as me trying to look out for my own skin. Or invis it. They'll do anything in the pursuit of 'authority' these days.

Either way the current mentality of the Staff, whilst not in the short-term, will doom this community. And it makes me sad that this community has such great potential to be something amazing but it is squandered by people in power who only care about themselves.
Oh, and to the people who are willing to just roll over:

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Acolyte of NoMe

[Wesker]

- The Dev strike:
You are free to keep working on the Mod if you want to do so, should you decide to keep your "strike" up and decide to stop working on the Mod then please notify us to put you back into the standard member group as you do not require access to the Dev forums any longer. You will be given 2 weeks to make your mind up on this.

Lmao


and who else is gonna determine PvP balance or implement it?

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[TheFreelancer]

Finally, Hope this marks the end of this unnecessary Drama!

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^ A Massive Eejit ^

[Operator]

- The Dev strike:
You are free to keep working on the Mod if you want to do so, should you decide to keep your "strike" up and decide to stop working on the Mod then please notify us to put you back into the standard member group as you do not require access to the Dev forums any longer. You will be given 2 weeks to make your mind up on this.

Lmao


and who else is gonna determine PvP balance or implement it?

apply for pvp balance dev

nao

[Omi]

You have given in to the demands of the public, and while I agree with most people that the bans were badly executed, giving in to the community outcry has, once again, undermined the authority of the greens.

Listening to feedback doesn't undermine anyone's authority. The staff are not infalliable, and to suggest that they should ignore community input (however it's put across) just because they're more or less self-appointed is a suggestion I won't ever agree with. I don't agree entirely with the outcome posted here (to say the least), but I am at the very least happy to see that the staff recognises to any degree at all that they can make mistakes. I'm still concerned that it took them so long, but at least we got somewhere in the end.

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[Dr Hooligan]

Eh, it is your private server. You have every right to do whatever with your private establishment. Something as an American I thoroughly believe in. Right to your private property. I served and risked my life for that actually. And not even the Guvmint has any right to that. Especially them... So I respect that. But in this day and age of trying to be civilized, most people prefer to be democratically minded, transparent and showing due process.. Anyway, I digress before I go off on another tangerine, good luck, I hope you guys can get back to making a good mod. I REALLY hope you guys can recreate the awesomeness that earned you Mod of the Year some years back. And I hope everybody can learn valuable lessons from this experience.

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