(07-25-2016, 02:27 PM)xiphos Wrote: In Karst's case i was able to see some really destructive things in various chat's he was involved in. With a really bad behavior. Atleast from my point of view.
So you arbitrarily consider some of the things he says in various chats destructive? And with "various chats" being random Skype chats you happen to be in with him. Of which discussed topics could be completely unrelated to Discovery in the first place.
First of all. Please stop quoting something out of context. He was a not so nice person in these chat's with some words i would never use. Over and over again in a destructive manner. So please. Get your facts straight. He clearly deserves a ban. Not a permanent one though. if you ask me. So. Please read the whole post again
I apologize, since I have been away and just read about certain events, I do not have the entire picture yet. However.....
(07-25-2016, 03:49 PM)xiphos Wrote: Not a permanent one though. if you ask me. So. Please read the whole post again
That's all I need to know.
I guess that means he has a chance to be placed on probation. Do the other admins not agree? What is the reason for his being still banned compared to the other 4?
(07-25-2016, 03:56 PM)Zynth Wrote: I apologize, since I have been away and just read about certain events, I do not have the entire picture yet. However.....
No offense taken. Let's move on
(07-25-2016, 03:56 PM)Zynth Wrote:
(07-25-2016, 03:49 PM)xiphos Wrote: Not a permanent one though. if you ask me. So. Please read the whole post again
That's all I need to know.
I guess that means he has a chance to be placed on probation. Do the other admins not agree? What is the reason for his being still banned compared to the other 4?
Just to make it clear. I am not an admin. And i don't want to. It's just my opinion as a community member about the whole thing. I don't know everything about this fuzz. Just the things i already mentioned. Thats's why i think Karst deserves a probation or atleast a short ban. But i think there are a few other things i have no clue about. That's why he recieved a perm ban @Zynth
Regarding Karst I saw him being very rude if not outright attacking people who disagreed with him. It felt a lot like cyber bullying and was very destructive.
I don't know what evidence admins had but I think his ban is fully justified, so good work #AdminTeam on keeping him banned. Of couse Karst's skypefriends will criticize your decision and picture him as innocent but nevermind them and keep making disco "great again"
(07-25-2016, 04:07 PM)xiphos Wrote: Just to make it clear. I am not an admin. And i don't want to. It's just my opinion as a community member about the whole thing. I don't know everything about this fuzz. Just the things i already mentioned. Thats's why i think Karst deserves a probation or atleast a short ban. But i think there are a few other things i have no clue about. That's why he recieved a perm ban @Zynth
Ok sorry, I did not notice the lack of green. Kinda assumed you were an admin. I somewhat remembered "pitchfork admin" or something like that back in the day, can't remember.
I still however still believe that the information regarding the ban should be more transparent especially considering this is rather high profile. Not to mention in the past perma-bans sanction threads were laced with evidence to show the community what exactly they have done wrong.
(07-25-2016, 04:11 PM)Qurchak Wrote: Regarding Karst I saw him being very rude if not outright attacking people who disagreed with him. It felt a lot like cyber bullying and was very destructive.
I don't know what evidence admins had but I think his ban is fully justified, so good work #AdminTeam on keeping him banned. Of couse Karst's skypefriends will criticize your decision and picture him as innocent but nevermind them and keep making disco "great again"
I mean of that is true then sure... But I had talked and been in chats with karst on TS before and he was always very good and friendly. Its hard to imagine him doing that.
(07-25-2016, 04:11 PM)Qurchak Wrote: Regarding Karst I saw him being very rude if not outright attacking people who disagreed with him. It felt a lot like cyber bullying and was very destructive.
I don't know what evidence admins had but I think his ban is fully justified, so good work #AdminTeam on keeping him banned. Of couse Karst's skypefriends will criticize your decision and picture him as innocent but nevermind them and keep making disco "great again"
I mean of that is true then sure... But I had talked and been in chats with karst on TS before and he was always very good and friendly. Its hard to imagine him doing that.
Yes hes very freindly and nice if he likes you, but if he doesnt he can be very toxic
(07-25-2016, 04:07 PM)xiphos Wrote: Just to make it clear. I am not an admin. And i don't want to. It's just my opinion as a community member about the whole thing. I don't know everything about this fuzz. Just the things i already mentioned. Thats's why i think Karst deserves a probation or atleast a short ban. But i think there are a few other things i have no clue about. That's why he recieved a perm ban @Zynth
Ok sorry, I did not notice the lack of green. Kinda assumed you were an admin. I somewhat remembered "pitchfork admin" or something like that back in the day, can't remember.
I still however still believe that the information regarding the ban should be more transparent especially considering this is rather high profile. Not to mention in the past perma-bans sanction threads were laced with evidence to show the community what exactly they have done wrong.
Oh yeah. That was bradmin/ktayn
And i totally agree. A bit more transparency would be nice. But yeah. Not my call. The problem with something like is, you have an endless discussion about yes or no. good or bad then. It's something the admins want to avoid. We have this kind of a discussion now though. So dunno. @Zynth