Just PM each other, Nyx, Nomnom. This is really not a big deal.
@Wesker: No one cares about your "war zone". Leeds has been a war zone for years and it only matters when there is fighting at that moment. It is much less of an issue to do a 1h race (that would irply likely only take 20 min in reality) in a "war zone", than let's say... 6 Scylla in front of Manhattan, every LN knowing where Rochester is, 34 Hessian BS in the game, NL still not being taken, etc etc etc.
There are so many things that "are not exactly as they could be"... and everybody (ok, almost everybody) just accepts them for what it is: a deviation from the perfect status for the sake of playing a game.
If you want a simulator... look somewhere else than Disco.
Edit: I should clarify that this is my personal opinion, and I do not speak in any way for AFC.
Can I ask why you're hosting a race in the middle of hostile territory/warzone?
Bumping this, just wondering.
can you explain your point ?
Your lore states you're at war with the Hessians, Dresden is a warzone pretty much completely under Hessian control aside from altenburg. Wouldn't make too much sense for you guys to just throw a party there, at least not inrply. Ofc, it already happened so im not gonna complain, I'm just wondering why you did that.
Can I ask why you're hosting a race in the middle of hostile territory/warzone?
Bumping this, just wondering.
can you explain your point ?
Your lore states you're at war with the Hessians, Dresden is a warzone pretty much completely under Hessian control aside from altenburg. Wouldn't make too much sense for you guys to just throw a party there, at least not inrply. Ofc, it already happened so im not gonna complain, I'm just wondering why you did that.
So you are stating that rogues cannot go pirate in New York for the same reason?
edit: Or taking BMMs from The Ring, right next to a house planet.
Or... many other things that involve stealth in this game and are catered to players being logged in to be considered populated rather than imaginary ships.
There are several things here I can talk about to unravel the reasoning inRP, Wesker.
1) AFC fly light interceptors as racers. Super agile and quick to maneuver and dodge fire.
2) AFC pilots are fanatics and pretty adrenaline crazed. They will do crazy stuff. They will enter and race in dangerous places.
3) AFC dont see a warzone as a no-go area.
4) Do Hessians always patrol Dresden? Don't you think there are times when the army is just not capable of being everywhere all at once?
5) Is Bautzen Station under seige? I doubt the system is completely under Hessian control. Space is vast as well.
6) Racing is not 'throwing a party'. Yeah.... don't label things in your favor.
7) It does make sense for AFC to do what they did inRP.... since above.
8) Several access points into the system.
9) Finally, I should update the 'At-War' thing into more of a Hostile rep. The only reason AFC was at war with RHA was due to helping DHC. Now that the DHC dont need any help, the club lost caring. That pretty much eliminates the argument that we would rather attack you.
Edit: Junkers enter a war-torn area after a battle to collect scraps. You cannot say a place is constantly under patrol.
it's basically stating your faction is omni-present.
Edit: racers are in-out scenarios. Notice that we didnt bring our party ships to the place. Notice also that UN| was there too. Are you going to deny them access to the system as well?
(02-23-2017, 04:34 PM)Wesker Wrote: Dresden is a warzone pretty much completely under Hessian control aside from altenburg.
The open space part of Dresden is not under Hessian control, otherwise you would have control over Bautzen, what did not happen (yet). Hessians right now control most of clouds and asteroid fields, but definitely not the area of open space from Altenburg to Bautzen. Unless there is battle in progress, that area is freely accesible. So considering that the race went mainly through this area and then racers turned back at the first destroyed ring on the edge of the southern lavafeld (which is the area which can be considered as under Hessian control), I don´t see much of a problem. Racers came in, quickly flew their race to the edge of Hessian territory and turned back. I don´t think there is reason to make big deal of it, it wasn´t race from Vogtland into Omega-54 and back.
If every somewhat contested zone was "off limits" for roleplay, Disco would be a pretty small place.
If players were allowed to "shut playing fields down because they can say so", Disco would lose a lot of interesting places.
Tolerance is a virtue and especially in roleplay games, where people interpret the playing field differently, it is a key principle in order to get along.
Hello yes I have good non-drama creating feedback.
I was in a few of your races before, I think the last one was the one that started in Baffin, went to Gallia, back to Baffin, then I think we got stuck in Chi.
Was fun, would race more if I was any good. Maybe make random Mini-event/Micro-event-esk races like the Mini-events Spazzy makes (giving everyone half an hour warning/ no warning at all) to create the feeling of spontaneous chases. It would give the Navy something to chase.
(02-23-2017, 04:52 PM)nOmnomnOm Wrote: So you are stating that rogues cannot go pirate in New York for the same reason?
edit: Or taking BMMs from The Ring, right next to a house planet.
Or... many other things that involve stealth in this game and are catered to players being logged in to be considered populated rather than imaginary ships.
chill, im not pulling that stunt completely. I wouldn't really care and complain if you came to dresden everyday. I'd log to interact.
However when it comes to hosting larger events, especially if it were a civilian event. I wouldnt host it in an enemy's home system.
Quote:There are several things here I can talk about to unravel the reasoning inRP, Wesker.
1) AFC fly light interceptors as racers. Super agile and quick to maneuver and dodge fire.
Radiation? Missiles? Mines? Disruptors?
Quote:2) AFC pilots are fanatics and pretty adrenaline crazed. They will do crazy stuff. They will enter and race in dangerous places.
Thats fine, but uh, a warzone? I could get super technical, I wont, but if your daredevils want a dangerous place that would make more sense id try the omegas.
Quote:3) AFC dont see a warzone as a no-go area.
Ok, thats fine. Ingame its easy to avoid opposing factions anyways.
Quote:4) Do Hessians always patrol Dresden? Don't you think there are times when the army is just not capable of being everywhere all at once?
Dresden is one of 3 home systems for the Hessians. Considering the track heads near leipzig from bautzen the Hessians certainly wouldve caught them. The hessians do infact patrol every inch of the system 24/7.
Quote:5) Is Bautzen Station under seige? I doubt the system is completely under Hessian control. Space is vast as well.
Bautzen is being evactuated inrp. The Hessians do have a huge grip on the system considering the altenburg is in flames.
Quote:6) Racing is not 'throwing a party'. Yeah.... don't label things in your favor.
Dunno about you, every time I went drag racing with friends it was during some kind of party. That was the impression I got from AFC to anyways.
Quote:7) It does make sense for AFC to do what they did inRP.... since above.
8) Several access points into the system.
9) Finally, I should update the 'At-War' thing into more of a Hostile rep. The only reason AFC was at war with RHA was due to helping DHC. Now that the DHC dont need any help, the club lost caring. That pretty much eliminates the argument that we would rather attack you.
The Hessians have all the excess entrances locked down, why do you think they want Dresden under their control? Its strategically valuable.
I'd leave it at war, if you intend to keep racing in Dresden, which I wont keep arguing against you doing btw.
Quote:Edit: Junkers enter a war-torn area after a battle to collect scraps. You cannot say a place is constantly underg patrol.
it's basically stating your faction is omni-present.
Edit: racers are in-out scenarios. Notice that we didnt bring our party ships to the place. Notice also that UN| was there too. Are you going to deny them access to the system as well?
RHA are at war with UN|, if we saw you with them, you'd be dead.
The junkers supply the Hessians and ship blood diamonds to keep neutrality, they are by no means close friends though.
That all, being said, dont get defensive, I was just wondering.
(02-23-2017, 05:14 PM)Laura C. Wrote: The open space part of Dresden is not under Hessian control, otherwise you would have control over Bautzen, what did not happen (yet).
Uhm, past bautzen, (where the race track was) yes we do. The federal forces are more towards altenburg if I remember correctly.
Quote:Hessians right now control most of clouds and asteroid fields, but definitely not the area of open space from Altenburg to Bautzen.
which is not where the race track was, it was south of bautzen.
Quote:Unless there is battle in progress, that area is freely accesible. So considering that the race went mainly through this area and then racers turned back at the first destroyed ring on the edge of the southern lavafeld (which is the area which can be considered as under Hessian control), I don´t see much of a problem.
Again, im not complaining, just wondering why.
Quote:Racers came in, quickly flew their race to the edge of Hessian territory and turned back. I don´t think there is reason to make big deal of it, it wasn´t race from Vogtland into Omega-54 and back.
AFC deals with missiles, radiation, etc etc all the time. Also homing missies dont exist anymore.
The term "home system" from my understanding is not plural. You can have 1.
Considering there is a JG into the system, i would contest as others put it too that it can be entered.
Wesker also note this: we raced before in Omega 11 and encountered RHA. We raced with them on our tail.
This is also not a large event. This inRP would last really quickly and when there would be an opening to do so.
Heyo, i'm not super upset about it because it doesn't affect me personally or anything but I've recently become aware that one of the members of your faction actually logs a DSE ID'd 5k to supply your bases in Kepler with. While this isn't against the rules or anything I personally find it a little distasteful for any faction to use other faction ID's in such a way. I also think it's rather bad because you're cutting out a faction that could have potentially filled that role, such as the actual DSE) or one of the shipping factions such as USI.
In my opinion you should really either use your own faction ships for stuff like this or try to involve other factions instead of just sidestepping them by using indy ID ships. If i'm somehow mistaken on any of this I apologize, that's just from what I've heard and a few brief encounters in game.