Atlantis class Liberty Carrier

[Etaphreven]

Xing is a freelance modeler. He's not part of any 'Discovery DevTeam', which doesn't even exist. You has no rightz to be an arse, it's his choice what he wants to model.:P

[Tenacity]

Xing is a freelance modeler. He's not part of any 'Discovery DevTeam', which doesn't even exist. You has no rightz to be an arse, it's his choice what he wants to model.:P

true, but the attitude he's been taking with other players who want new ships is what ticks me off.

Eternal asks for one new order battleship to replace the osiris, and Xing goes off about how the order just wants to be overpowered and have tons of ships and curbstomp liberty... Yet liberty has 9 more ships right now than the order does, including a full line of capships.

To list them, the order has four ships specifically developed for them: Anubis, Nephthys, Talon, and Osiris.
Liberty has eleven ships to it's name: Patriot, Liberator, Defender, Guardian, Avenger, Executioner, Havoc Mk2, liberty gunboat, liberty cruiser, liberty assault battlecruiser, liberty assault carrier, and liberty dreadnaught.

and on top of all that, trying to model this new carrier after the osiris, and giving it technology only the order is supposed to have... Sounds like a powertrip to me.

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[Gamazson]

Please keep in mind that liberty already has a carrier and this is most likely intended to replace the current star wars model. The order does not need a new BS because they have one, a vanilla one, which no sane mod would replace. The order needs lighter caps long before they need a new class of BS. They may be big but they still do not have the resources that the Houses posses.

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AKA Nexus

[Cosmos]

its nice, but dont liberty hve enough ships? all they need is a bomber...

but yeah nice looking ship. nice 1

( also the oder should have a variety of ships imo, they are the no1 anti nomad faction so they need quite a few.)

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[mjolnir]

Please keep in mind that liberty already has a carrier and this is most likely intended to replace the current star wars model.

Yep..this shouls simply replace the starwars one.

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Igiss says: Martin, you give them a finger, they bite off your arm.

[Xing]

Tenacity
first off, I still maintain the fact the Order does not need any more capital ship. My opinion was that no pirate should have capital ships anyhow, but it is Igiss' decision.

The design looks very liberty according to the majority so I guess your opinion is mainly biased by your general hatred of Liberty because you werent able to adapt to the rp decisions of the official liberty factions. And you hold grudge against me because I dont want to see another Order battleship since they already have a vanilla one. Fine by me.

As to why another carrier; first off, not ANOTHER, it is a replacement for the actual one. As such, Igiss mentionned there will be no ships removed from the mod, and I believe the actual model is highly unpopular due to it being an import from Star Wars. This is my reason to create a more Liberty version of it; and you can't deny the axe head of the ship, the dome shaped command center of the deck (etc) are not Liberty concept.

So, you stand down and boil your anger on another planet, thank you.

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[Turkish]

I'm sorry Tenacity but you are mistaken. The Osiris was developed by Liberty as a next generation battleship, something to replace the aging model that was currently(and still is in use). Yes it was stolen by the Order, but that doesn't mean that the technology used within it is exclusive to the Order.

Seeing as it was developed in Liberty they would have redundant copies of the plans for the Osiris in every secure location possible, at least in my eyes, and if thats true why in their right minds would they stop developing technology in that vein and still and just sick with aging battleships while all the other houses are developing newer stronger technologies?

I give it my seal of approval Xing, great work.

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I have a fetish for all things Norse.

[McNeo]

This reminds me of the first boss on the N64 game Lylat wars after you pass under the waterfall on Cornaria.

I think this definately suits Liberty more than the current Star Wars Carrier, however I am a bit concerned at the lack of details at the front and back of this model. I'd like to see an unrendered version if possible, to see where the curves and other minor details are, as I cant see them on the front or the back much...

Also, the Osiris should not be replaced. Maybe the hitbox altered in some way, such as making it like any other nonvanilla ship, but the model itself is a great one. Any vanilla models are used as a basis to design the rest of the respective faction's craft from, so I do not see any benefit in removing the vanilla models or changing them.

[Jinx]

i think it looks very liberty like - and i d keep the launch tubes far away like that. - in terms of RP, its not too bad to have them apart from the main hull in case there are accidents inside - in the end, ships are filled up with ammonition and landing/launching ships can allways cause problems. - liberty is not a pirate house - liberty operates in vast space ... and so they don t need compact designs.

besides... i just reworked my order cruiser ( which i d rather suggest as a cruiser class to igiss ) with an extremely compact design - so as a direct counterpart... its fine that liberty is not only a dreadnaught class carrier, but also considerably larger in all dimensions.

the launch tubes suggest that the ship is VERY big - if an avenger is supposed to launch from them.

btw. i don t think freelancer carriers need landing tubes. - the crucial thing is to launch quickly and in large numbers. - when ships land, they can do it in the normal bay, since they can hover unlike aeroplanes. ( the order carrier has 4 tubes, too - btw. )

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[Tenacity]

Tenacity
first off, I still maintain the fact the Order does not need any more capital ship. My opinion was that no pirate should have capital ships anyhow, but it is Igiss' decision.

Excuse me? Take a look at the ID, infocard, and newsboards in-game. The order is not a pirate faction, they're lawfuls, and just because they're an enemy to YOUR chosen faction doesnt mean they should be stuck with a ****ty ship line.

Further, the order is the most advanced (technologically) faction in sirius. It may have started out by stealing liberty's designs, but they've got an entire 'army' of scientists and engineers now, developing their own equipment and ships.

Everything I hear out of you when it comes to the order is "they're my enemy, so they should suck." Sorry, but that aint how it works.

The design looks very liberty according to the majority so I guess your opinion is mainly biased by your general hatred of Liberty because you werent able to adapt to the rp decisions of the official liberty factions. And you hold grudge against me because I dont want to see another Order battleship since they already have a vanilla one. Fine by me.

I hold grudges because of your biased attitude, no other reason. The model's engine and side-pods look nothing like what's currently in-game, and the front hatchet looks like it was designed by the order, not liberty.

You want honest, constructive criticism? Ditch the tubes entirely, put launch bays along the sides of the ship, shorten the hatchet on the front, and replace the engine tube - it's too long and doesnt resemble current liberty capship engine design.

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