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Atlantis class Liberty Carrier
Offline Tenacity
05-31-2008, 06:41 AM,
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Quote:Barring the invention of instantaneous communication, communication would be next to impossible over interstellar distances. Of course, if we're fighting over these vast distances. we would have to develop an extremely fast method of travel, so that is what would likely limit communication times.

Well, there's no resistance in space really other than line of sight... anything that travels at the speed of light (aka light and some types of radiation) could be used to convey messages, but across any significant distance there would still be delays.

and Xing, it looks better but the engine is still way out of place, it looks too smooth and too... plain, I guess. I'd say scrap that back half altogether and attach the liberty dreadnaught engine to it.

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Offline Tic
05-31-2008, 08:19 AM,
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NOW it looks beautifull! Perfect to replace SW model.
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Offline Jinx
05-31-2008, 08:41 AM,
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this version is of course much more detailed - so it looks better. ( naturally ) ... i like how it suggests how big it is, even without a texture yet.

gotto agree with tenacity, the engine part still looks very plain, but i m sure that ll change - and it looks different, once its skinned anyway. - if the engine is a lot bigger than the dreadnaught engine - or different anyway, i wouldn t mind it to be smoother - just the question if it really should become an impulse engine with cute smoke rings - or instead a real engine fire. ( engines of that size suggest a fire imo - like the liberty liner engine ) - but the current design suggests the impulse engine.

the mushroom in the back should be red with white dots.... . no, but seriously - the tubes on the side look good now, big enough for fighters of any class for sure.

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Offline mjolnir
05-31-2008, 09:59 AM,
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I have comment about the lover part...

in the back there is a "box" on each side.... looks kind of weird to me

what about putting the "liberty wings" - like on the Dread/Jinx's BC there?

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Offline Xing
05-31-2008, 10:03 AM,
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uh I actually thought about replacing them with the strange wing like (but not so) components of the Luxury liner. still needs some updates. but its nearly done.

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Offline sovereign
05-31-2008, 02:34 PM,
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Its beautiful. I'm in love. Again. :ylove:

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Offline Yngen
05-31-2008, 03:45 PM,
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Its a difficult project Xing, even without the rude critics. No one has yet created a carrier from scratch for Discovery. So the discussion about launch tubes needs to be fleshed out more. Its important to remember that the only reason we could role play the existing Liberty Carrier as such was because it has that blue bay in the middle where presumably it would launch its fighters. So you are right to attempt some sort of launching device on this ship, but since this is the first it will lead the way for the other Carriers down the road so it needs to be good.

So now we have the opportunity to reinvent the wheel. Or, to reinvent the space carrier. I can only pick at ideas that have been forwarded as I can't think of a better way to do build it:

-launching tubes: maybe too practical or utilitarian a design for Freelancer. Freelancer goes for stylization before it goes for realism. So no matter how effective launch tubes would be at dispersing fighters, that should only be a secondary consideration to how the ship looks.

-a ship that looks like a WW2 aircraft carrier. Yes, the Liberty Dreadnaught has the bow of a ww2 Destroyer coupled with a bridge section to match, but that is not the only stylization found in Liberty hardware. And it should look at least a bit like a spaceship rather than a floating flat top waiting to bring its P-47s home.

Liberty's style in the game- 1)afore mentioned hatchet bow, 2)Integration of old American Symbolism-such as the eagle feathers on the Avenger fighter, 3)Navy Grey skinning (another WW2 similarity.)

With that in mind here are my suggestions

-redo the launch tubes. They look like huge engine pods strapped to the sides. Or worse, they look like huge planet killing guns, something out of Transformers... Did any of you ever play Wing Commander? If so, do you remember what the original Tiger Claw looked like? It had a landing strip running down its center like the mouth of a huge whale, covered by ship hull on all sides. Maybe we could make the landing strip internal like that some how...or even make it a 'fly through' strip where you can see through it to the other side. That gives the ship a bit more of the feel of a WW2 American aircraft carrier (A Liberty stylization,) but at the same time looking like a space ship.

The ship needs a more prominent bridge section too look more Liberty. Yours gets lost in the business of the ship's midsection.

The great big button in the aft section...looks like a pinball machine button to me-all you'd have to do is skin it red. It also makes the ship look like a mega tanker--sort of EXXON Valdez-ish.


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Offline kingvaillant
05-31-2008, 06:00 PM,
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OMG I LOVE IT!!!!

but I support what Mjolnir said

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Offline Xing
05-31-2008, 07:36 PM,
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I'll add further details. The lower pod has been removed, I'll make a new one.

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Offline Dopamino
05-31-2008, 07:52 PM,
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I don't think that looks better than the previous version. Now it looks like they chopped off the fronts of 2 liberty dreads and stuck them on the side.
Are you going to make the arches more rounded?

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