(06-25-2020, 07:22 AM)spaceminer Wrote: So there is this problem with the well known team that keeps attacking bases , with almost no RP or stupid excuses , driving people away , destroying the game seems with the bessing of the Admins since they don't do anything about that (but that is another story there are solutions they can use simple solutions that will make people come back not leave .Any admin or the Admin team PM me and i solve this in 10 lines or less using simple math and logic)....
So the solution is simple and is up to the community.... here it goes :
The team that is attacking bases , well known metagamers , cheaters , rules gray areas users e.t.c .... are how many... 10 -15 players ... now with a population of up to 80 or more , that leaves at least 70 - 65 players or more ... Not all of them are experienced but they can be trained or help in many ways (i mean the less experienced ones getting guidance and help from the rest) ..
So these 70-65 or more players can get organized , coordinated and team up vs these pitifull 10-15 troublemakers .
Every time a base is under attack imagine the outcome of an organized team of 40-50 players that goes there to defend and delete the attackers ...
There is an example close to that but not exactly like that ... Bretonia , because Bretonia is active with many bases and players in it , when these snakes came to attack they fled like wiped dogs all times also because of the huge amount of defence arrays but surelly because the activity and grouping of players there was good enough to oppose them most times , almost all times...
Let's get organized all the rest who don't belong to that group and force them to find a cozy corner to go to shrink in peace ... It is all up to you , do this and the problem is solved . Don't do this and i will personally will be there helping them destroy the next base since it seems this is what you deserve if you don't unite against that small group...
So stand up , organize , coordinate , make a forum meeting point for that coordination and let's all together go break their teeth and noses ... at least virtually since we can't do that in real life ..... But if in real life you had a bunch of bullies going around doing their thing would you stand like sheep? Personally (and this is what i actually have done and keep doing in cases like that) alone (believe me i can handle ... i am really a pitbull ... ) or with some friends we gather and go beat them like box training sacks till they passout ... If they continue ... we repeat e.t.c ....
Why should it be different here???
So Next move Start declraring interest to organize and we 'll start forming a group , soon in a few days i expect a good number to be ready to start talking strategies and plans and the rest will come ....
Taking a step back from the "this man is upset and clearly not in his right mind" notion, how about I make a point of talking about the actual actions this man's proposing?
It's a big dumb ganksquad. Literally just a numbers game. Pretty much all that would come as a result of this post is just a particularly dedicated big dumb ganksquad to make sure that a siege party doesn't accomplish what it set out to do. It's that thing people in Disco whinge about because there's some unspoken contract tying you to Zellbrigen or something, and they feel personally slighted because they lost in a video game and have to wait an hour.
It's outplaying the other guy. Sure, it's stupid community-police outplaying, but the actual actions of this aren't that much different when you compare it to forming a dedicated defense Discord server for a particular region.
Part of the reason this thread exists is the mentality surrounding POBs that many owners tend to espouse, which is that their assets should not be removed, ever, because they have made a time investment into them.
To which, the response is simple: Git gud.
Place your base like an intelligent human being that cannot be readily seen within two days or just be a chump like the rest and place them around cancerous high-traffic points (which by the way there should be rules against that sort of thing).
User was banned for: They will know.
Time left: (Permanent)
Or ,you can not bother with building player own bases, that way you wuld not give a frack abaut those cheating metagamers bullies pob destoyers, who cant even be named publicly because of convinient trial by forum rule.
Lack of bases to destoy will also cry them,so you will win in moral battle.
There are two kind of personas , runners and fighters , runners are not fighting they run from battle , we need the fighters to gather together.We talk about Gang Banging them .Come join will be fun
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(06-25-2020, 08:37 AM)Typrop Wrote: ...
It's a big dumb ganksquad. Literally just a numbers game. Pretty much all that would come as a result of this post is just a particularly dedicated big dumb ganksquad to make sure that a siege party doesn't accomplish what it set out to do. It's that thing people in Disco whinge about because there's some unspoken contract tying you to Zellbrigen or something, and they feel personally slighted because they lost in a video game and have to wait an hour.
It's outplaying the other guy. Sure, it's stupid community-police outplaying, but the actual actions of this aren't that much different when you compare it to forming a dedicated defense Discord server for a particular region.
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Place your base like an intelligent human being that cannot be readily seen within two days or just be a chump like the rest and place them around cancerous high-traffic points (which by the way there should be rules against that sort of thing).
What you call "ganksquad" is exactly what all these bully-defenders here propose: "If you want to keep your POB, then get organized, get friends, get your butt into a bomber or cap ship and patrol your POB 24/7!"
Can't have it both ways.
And THERE ARE house-laws against placing POBs in less than 10-15 k distance of any NPC structure, even trade lanes. Official factions obviously excluded, but as an indy you don't have the luxury of building like in the New London defense grid.