Actually, you CAN use the Nomad Light Fighter as a simple ship. It's up to the person who is flying the ship if they AREN'T flying it, and are a Nomad. Well, trial one.
While being quite funny, your sig was the biggest one i've ever seen so far. No more than 700x250 please. ~utrack http://pastebin.com/SYQXBufs
Quote:PS : I beat a liberiator with my nomad and a nomad with my arwing ! So to beat a liberiator with my arwing may be easy to do.
I'v killed a GB with VHF ( Blood Dragon VHF,with Inferno ofc, GB pilot was probably blind.) all by myself once.
That doesn't mean that VHF's are stronger then GB's, does it now?
It depends who would fly that Liberator against you, sir.
Quote:A light fighter is here to beat heavy fighters and bombers and to do not have enough power for transport and stronger.
Yes but not by all means it's not. It is very likely to beat them now as it is.
Make them more powerful and VHF's and bombers will not stand a chance.
And that sucks.
Lucendez Wrote:
It is every Corsair's responsibility to die a beautiful death in defense of Crete, regardless of how OORP or how capwhoring the opposition is. Launch your fighter, joust the battlecruisers and die a beautiful death. Then, drink it down in the bar.
Light Fighters do not exist in a void seperate from other ship classes. They have to be balanced not only in relation to each other, but in relation to other ship classes as well.
Also, the Scimitar doesn't need improvement. It doesn't turn as well, but it has an extra gun to make up for it - that turret fires forward, y'know.
Grimly, then why do you want Liberator upgraded?
Because you fly it? Thought so..
Discussion over, from my side.
Lucendez Wrote:
It is every Corsair's responsibility to die a beautiful death in defense of Crete, regardless of how OORP or how capwhoring the opposition is. Launch your fighter, joust the battlecruisers and die a beautiful death. Then, drink it down in the bar.
Quote:Grimly, then why do you want Liberator upgraded?
Because you fly it? Thought so..
Discussion over, from my side.
I'm not using a liberiator (for the moment).
And I'm asking upgrades for most of current ships. NOT ONLY THE LIBERIATOR.
You may see i downgraded liberiator's hull and power too. It refer to the patriot !
The kusarian light fighter may be the one i want to change the most (he have to be one of the faster, like a Drake mark II).
The 3 overpowered light fighters are the 2 nomads and the Loki due to their torps slot. For the nomad, it may be normal. For the Loki, we may delete it.
The scimitar ... his 5th weapon is a deadly present. His powerplant will suffer more. And If i see the sabre ... its the same. 7th weapon and we gave him more turn speed too.
I'm working on it cause i see again some eagle overturn light fighters. and they may NOT.
' Wrote:I'm not using a liberiator (for the moment).
And I'm asking upgrades for most of current ships. NOT ONLY THE LIBERIATOR.
You may see i downgraded liberiator's hull and power too. It refer to the patriot !
You mean the tiny changes you proposed while upping the turning a lot compared to other ships?
Sorry but Liberator is currently like a BHG GS of the LF class. It definitely doesn't need upgrade.
Quote:The kusarian light fighter may be the one i want to change the most (he have to be one of the faster, like a Drake mark II).
I fly it and think it's ok. But I have troubles with Zapp in Blood Dragon (the second fastest turning VHF) 1vs1 in it yes. No big surprise.
Quote:The 3 overpowered light fighters are the 2 nomads and the Loki due to their torps slot. For the nomad, it may be normal. For the Loki, we may delete it.
Funny that you still suggested upping the Nomad...
Loki is fine since it's huge. It eats Mini Razors like nothing else.
Quote:The scimitar ... his 5th weapon is a deadly present. His powerplant will suffer more. And If i see the sabre ... its the same. 7th weapon and we gave him more turn speed too.
Few posts back you wrote how LF weapons don't eat the powerplant fast enough. Weapon grouping and you are fine.
Scimitair is ok LF. Around the average in the class if you consider all pros and cons. Sabre is one of the best. Falcata average.
Liberator is great, Guardian good, Avenger average to bad, Raven Claw average (crappy hitbox getting fixed), Havoc under average.
See the point?
A bit of balancing across the shipline.
Igiss says: Martin, you give them a finger, they bite off your arm.
Grimly, with all due respect, you don't have enough experience in this field to do proper balancing.
You fly the Arwing, and recently started flying the Nomad LF, this does NOT make you qualified to balance all the LFs in the game just by looking at the stats.
Like others like Mjolnir have said, the Liberator and Wyrm are the best LF in the game, and you've said they are the worst...
Quote:Funny that you still suggested upping the Nomad...
Just compared to the right nomad fighter, its again a weak one.
Personnaly I'll get rid soon of this mine. (soon a keeper) So its not my own interrest. I'll not have it more in 4.85.
I may hit a little hard on it right.
I tested some of them in SP mod in addition of the arwing on the server (didn't want to trade and make new chars)
Arrow : Too fast for me, i can't use the mouse flight with that. His 2 weap slots are well, but it is "I'll shot you for you don't have more b/b and I'll hope a nuclear mine will beat you".
Maybe a rare one the npcs couldn't touch me. (high strafing speed)
Take your time to kill.
Liberiator : Like a Patriot when we start. But not exactly (more powerful and a little less agile like i suggested to change)
here i used buckshots and reavers to test it
Arwing : My favorite on the server cause everyone stop to attack to ask themselves if its normal i don't have weaps. Except this problem. If i campare it to the Loki, some bots/bats are needed. And this f****** disruptor is not working !
Loki (I forgot it in my list, so i think no changes may be done): Like the arwing but with a sunslayer in addition => DEVASTATOR, take care about your own sunslayer.
Against a low skilled pilot (like npcs) : the fight may not be long. (lock, shield busters and kill !)
1imp debb + krakens works well
Have again to test :
Tiger Shark
Scimitar
And for every one, if i chose to be a corsair (and a good one cause when i started i had again an eagle). That's because they got the worst ships of ALL SIRIUS !!! If you win with them, you win with all others.
PS : after reflection, don't change the arwing. More the ship are bad, more the pilots are good.
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