Thank you for your invaluable input...

[skoko]

1. When there are even more than 4-5 of us on, always everyone is in fighters, our dreadnoughts are nearly never out, in fact most people are aware of this and very proud of the LN for being like that.

That is true, in 99% of cases .... that is good... basically I fought for LN while there were 2 of us online.... like 2/3 months constantly , Titan and me... no one else... and that was hell... but you know what, it was fun hell! We were engaged by LHs and HF, LRs , Xenos, and no one complained about us... but that is different story...

LN has every right to defend their space by all means... and i assure you that almost all people in HC have honesty and integrity to fight in honest way... now I was in couple fights with LN guys where some of them wanted to pull missile boats out in fighter/bomber fight... that is why (IMO) we are lacking of few experienced field officers who will say STOP, No caps in fighter fights , leave the area ... and similar.... Thing is that LN caps can be in that fights, but LN ONLY! And they should say pi** off from here to all others... And we are coming back to that people that camp New York in Gbs, Cruisers, BCs and BBs and spoli fun for rest of us... And, for now, LN can't do anything against that (I am talking mostly about LNS guys), i hope in near future that will be solved too...

Whenever i fight against LN and i get killed by LN-LNS-xxx.xxxx i don't have nothing against it, except if someone comes in even fighter fight with missile boat to prove his skills w00t? , but when i fight in fighter battle against LN/LSF fighters and 3 LNS indies come and start missile spamm against very few people that STILL fly fighters and bombers... that makes me sick, and i always say in that battles to all enemy fighters, bombers gf, and to all ******* that just came there with big ships, //pathetic...

I will do everything what is in my power to influence people in LN HC to do something about that indies people... But you can't flame LN for defending their space, you can be angry on them ,though, because they don't do anything with independents who fly capitals and stick only to NY, whole day long...

Skoko

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Some days I see nothing but gunboats and cruisers. But today was just fighters.

Also I hope people don't start 2nd class citizening indies rate the person as how the the conduct themselves.

P.S. I didn't read all of the posts here.....

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Also I hope people don't start 2nd class citizening indies rate the person as how the the conduct themselves.

It's not the person, it's a group that we've generalised against; those people who are taking the server away from us and not putting tags in their name, those independents.:P

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It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.

[Linkus]

Eh, the LN can do what they want. The worse they get, the harder it'll get for them. The better they get, the easier. Always darkest before the light.

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Also I hope people don't start 2nd class citizening indies rate the person as how the the conduct themselves.

/SIGNED

One thing I hate the most is how people ALWAYS generalize indies in capships as being capwhores. When they see my battleship I almost automatically get whining about capwhores.. etc... yet they fail to realize that I'm not usually shooting at them unless they attack/violate the zone...

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[Seth Karlo]

'scuse me?

Yeah, SF is out of the LN, it was done by an officer that has left the LN because we yelled at him a bit after that incident, sad sob story ain't it?

I admit I made a large mistake there, but that is not the reason I left the LN, I mainly left becuase I'm rarely playing these days, instead helping with 4.85.

So please, if your going to flame me for a mistake which I admit was a bad one, I believed a friend instead of thinking about what should have actually happened, then please go ahead. However, do not create reasons for my leaving which have little or no basis in fact.

Titan, I'll talk on skype.

Seth

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[Eppy]

Yes, and I'd like to advise the LN next time to attack the rampant Outcast capship flotilla that's sitting out in New York and spouting propoganda into system chat instead of the lone ship that's trying to hunt them down and remove them...also, Ross, you owe me 185 million, and my debt collector is getting antsy. Also, people chasing me: take your grudge somewhere else.

Also, that was no reason to kick Seth. Pick your poison: one that will leave, or three that will stay?

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Which Dreadnought was that?

One of your nine.

[Seth Karlo]

Eppy, they didn't kick me. I left from a rash and stupid mistake.

However, I umm, "Put" Seth into a coma until after the mod realese, I don't have time to play atm. And it was ooRP for me to make that order. I admit my mistake. But bringing the Fantsia to Manhattan might not have been the best idea either... Maybe hide elsewhere in system next time?

Seth

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[VincentFerrex]

Right, I'm too tired to type anything long, so I'm going to answer one thing.

While I agree with you in this regard, I'm not all too impressed with LN forum RP either. It seems like you trying to annihilate somebody's right to be in Liberty seems like powergaming too, especially since its such a "hush hush" operation and he couldn't have known. See, I *could* infiltrate some hierarchy then make all these secret plans which I have safely saved in a text document then go, "DAI! U SUQ MEH ROOLZ SO I PWN U for... Something you didn't know about."

RP-wise, the soldier/marine shouldn't question orders.

Ever heard of a "need to know basis"?

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[Niezck]

Liberty Navy capitals are very rarely online, I know this for a fact. They come online to counter other threats and 99% of the time for no other reason. There is the occasional mistake but there's no need to have 50 people pounce on them for each and every screw-up. You wouldn't like it if we did it to you, would you?

*What Vincent said*

Ah, I can't be bothered to reply to the rest, it's already been covered. Seriously people, find something else to do. Flaming LN is just getting old now.