If he wants to do that he can Tenacity, you actually cannot stop him.
As unfortunate as it is for me to side with Akuma, he's right in his principle. If we are a collected group of dissident order pilots decided we no longer agree with Bs| doctrine what right do you have to tell us we cannot pursue that highly fruitful and philosophical RP line?
' Wrote:Name change probably won't happen.
We get alot of support from the actuall clan Bs|, from which Freelancer was added too. People will just have to learn, suck it up:)
Sure he can turkish, but chances are his faction will never be approved. It conflicts with an already established official faction that has had an excellent history of RP and contribution to the order and the mod in general. Not only that, but even if by some outlandish chance they were approved, omicron 100 is already owned by black squadron, who would never let this new, 'rogue' faction in to purchase guard ID's or capships - the 'rogue order' would be forced into nothing but fighters, bombers, and gunboats, and would be severely outgunned by the people they are trying to rebel against.
Akumabito posts **** like that for the sole purpose of inciting flames, he's got no place in this thread or any other as far as I'm concerned, and I'd put money on other people feeling the same way. Akumabito is just pissed that he hasnt gotten authority and privilege handed to him on a silver platter, and now he's running around attacking every faction he possibly can in retaliation - he's throwing a damn temper tantrum like a 3 year old kid.
' Wrote:Perhaps all indies can join a new unofficial faction, TO| the True Order, who splinter from the black squadron after suspecting they have been infiltrated by nomads.
Sounds like fun. (It is a shame that we will only be fighting other independents though.)
' Wrote:they seriously need to ban you from this forum for sheer stupidity.
:lol:You can RP unilateral control over everything, so we can RP that you don't have unilateral control.
' Wrote:Sure he can turkish, but chances are his faction will never be approved. It conflicts with an already established official faction that has had an excellent history of RP and contribution to the order and the mod in general. Not only that, but even if by some outlandish chance they were approved, omicron 100 is already owned by black squadron, who would never let this new, 'rogue' faction in to purchase guard ID's or capships - the 'rogue order' would be forced into nothing but fighters, bombers, and gunboats, and would be severely outgunned by the people they are trying to rebel against.
Akumabito posts **** like that for the sole purpose of inciting flames, he's got no place in this thread or any other as far as I'm concerned, and I'd put money on other people feeling the same way. Akumabito is just pissed that he hasnt gotten authority and privilege handed to him on a silver platter, and now he's running around attacking every faction he possibly can in retaliation - he's throwing a damn temper tantrum like a 3 year old kid.
If you have the ID you can enter the system. Unofficial faction.
He has posted a valid RP idea for the sole purpose of combatting power-gaming, which is what the Bs| are doing at this point in time. As for throwing temper tantrums, who is the one swearing his head off at the others actions?
' Wrote:With the basics.
Bs| has control over the Order. Bs| leaders are Order leaders and what we say goes, that's it.
The Order is one big fleet, mechanics, doctors, everyone is a pilot. That's why the leaders are all admirals and the Order is under command by the 4 Bs| admirals. This means there is no such thing as an indie Order admiral or any other non Bs| admiral. And for the record, the admirals are
-Ascendancy (Fleet Admiral)
-Myself (Vice Admiral)
-SeanTheDestroyer (Mid Admiral)
-Zavier (Rear Admiral)
We each have our set of characters, but those are our forum names and stuff.
I see.... I was not previously aware of this. No non-Bs admirals? Well, I wasn't planning on making an admiral (too high up on the chain of command for me), but this is news to me. I'm not certain I like this, though. I can understand not allowing any other fleet admirals, but I dunno whether I like the idea of Rear Admirals being restricted...
' Wrote:Bs| is the only organized group within the Order. I don't want to see anyone making any rp "fleets" within the Order. As that would also say that there is an admiral at the head and there's not. I don't mind "multi purpose strike groups" or whatever, just not fleets.
Only organized group? Again, I was unaware of this. I would like to add that your name is therefor rather counter-intuitive. Black "Squadron" implies just that, a squadron. I believe that if you wish to keep this, a name change would be beneficial so as to avoid misunderstandings.
' Wrote:Now, once 4.85 we will be restricting Osiris's and other capital ships with an iron fist. dictionary.
Ummm... dictionary? What? :crazy:
I think I may be missing something here...:blink:
' Wrote:If you have independant capital ship, ie. Osiris, please get an rp story set up as soon as possible and post it and work on it and make sure it's in depth. Once 4.85 comes out and I see indies, I want to see their rp too. But if I just see a paragraph about the ship I'll get mad at the effort. And like I said, we will get you to uuh decomission your Osiris as we have done in the past.
Urgh... I really need to finish On Heaven and Earth. I'll get the dang thing done by 4.85, though, if all goes as planned. Then I'll be snagging meself a new recon cruiser.
' Wrote:Now, last part and most importantly!
I want to get the input from everyone who has an Order character. Bs| or not. Please let me know if you think a policy or Order space law or whatever should be changed, added, or removed. I want your ideas. I don't want to make Bs| an Order dictatorship. Tell me what you think and we'll work together to work it out. If you don't say anything then don't complain when you see something done you don't like. Please please please talk to Bs| and get involved.
Good to hear it. I'm glad you're going to maintain good indie-faction relationships.
' Wrote:the RM has absolute restrictions. I think it's like no indie cruisers or bigger what so ever. I don't plan to do this.
I have an Indie Rheinland cruiser. Got it 1 week ago after scrapping me Order Osiris, So you are wrong here. So far I have had nothing but great RP, and been thanked several time's by RM for helping them with bigger enemie's. So people can just stop Knocking RM i think. I have gotten greif from LN/LSF and order only(not Bs, Tenacity) For what they consider OORP.Why i left. I RP all the time. Some do not like my RP, BUT TOUGH COOKIES. I will not be told how to RP in a GAME!! Thats right this is a game.
' Wrote:What a bunch of fun. (What a shame independents are enforcing Bs| policies since they are almost never online, and yes, you can take the the name of the clan to be the other meaning as well.)
Apart from that, I have an order character and I am thinking of upgrading with the new mod release. I am not intending to write anything on it, however, you want people to write up forum RP. Why? It is not a prerequisite to fly any ship and never should be.
I have an Order Fighter still, and i may decide to try out the new order ship's. I also will not be Wasting my free Game time writing a dam RP story. A story means you have to much free time, NOT that you ca RP in game.
' Wrote:I fully agree with your stuff. However, I must warn that I've seen players having a kick-ass forum RP, but were acting like asses in game. Be careful with that. The In-game RP should matter more than the forums RP. not everyone is the best at writing stories. For example, myself I completely, utterly suck at RP stories on the forums, or I lack time for them. However, I feel like I am RP pretty well in game.
Don't reject people that play well only because they only have a few lines of RP on the forums.
((btw, just to avoid confusion, in the first lines, I am not speaking about any player/group of players, just pointing out a fact))
/SIGNED
As for restricting Osiris class ship's? I have no problem with that. That is why i asked Bs many month's ago before i purchased mine. I scrapped it because people were forcing(err trying) me to RP their way. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!
I have never had 1 issue with a single Bs member. I follow their order's when they are on. I am in no way ever going to follow any Order indies who think they are better then me. That mean's you Tenacity. You want to order indies around? Join Bs. Til then back the hell off in game.You were granted permission to Guard O-100 Not command when Bs are absent. Do not deny it. You tried to apoligise to LN/LSF for my action's like i did something wrong, and you were in charge. I RP'd the situation. NOT the way LSF/LN or those following the OORP Truce would have liked, but i did RP.
I support the Osiris limit, but think limiting other cap's will loose you alot of Order player's, and order need's Player's right now.
PS. Sorry to any Bs player's if i came off a little harsh.